we need to talk about these negative reviews in #gnome #software. they're absolutely useless?

I wonder if that's why #flathub and #bazaar don't show them?

even with a bad bug report I'm happy to help track down the problem. this however leaves me with nothing but a bad feeling.

perhaps we can ask to file a report when users select a 1 or 2 star review. the link is right there in the metainfo file...

in the proprietary app world this may be expected because it's harder to engage with the developers.

but we have the benefit to actually reach out and fix stuff fast.

@hbons some folks just have an emotional response and just throw in "feedback" with absolutely no detail. That said user reviewers are not bug reports. So I expect feedback to be kind of vague if they run into problems.
@sri it's not ideal, but if I can reach out somehow to get a log that's fine...
@hbons might worth communicating a way to reach the developer directly within gnome software or flathub.

@sri @hbons I've landed on the idea that app store feedback should look like:

馃憤 I like it!
鈿狅笍 Report an issue

You can calculate relative rankings based on number of downloads combined with number of 馃憤. And then reporting an issue should go straight to the developer's issue reporting solution, not the app store.

I don鈥檛 think qualitative free-form reviews are a successful design, *especially* with how software packaging works on Linux.

@sri @hbons if we want qualitative social proof, it needs to look completely different. Probably in the form of editorial content from the app store itself鈥攚hich is a lot more work but also carries a lot more weight

@cassidy @sri @hbons
In the world of constantly-improving FLOSS apps, negative reviews absolutely need a limited lifespan IMHO, because they will never reflect reality in anything beyond short-term shelf life: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2181

#MaintainerLife #FreeSoftware #FLOSS #OpenSource

Bad reviews/ratings never expire - Need a way to filter them out or statistically weight them (#2181) 路 Issues 路 GNOME / gnome-software 路 GitLab

TLDR Unlike positive reviews, negative ratings/reviews should have a limited shelf life. If I am not mistaken (based on...

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@cassidy i'd be down to puke out editorial content for gnome apps on flathub, if there was backend support ... that actually sounds kind of fun and relaxing. i find myself doing a half-baked job of that on here and bsky anyway, though my reviews here just tend to be effusive nonsense. ;)

cc @razze (in case this is already a thing or ends up in the pipeline)

@nekohayo @sri @hbons

@nekohayo @cassidy @sri @hbons
Look at this gem!
I wonder which version Andy was using that gave him so much issues.