@reiver ⊼ (Charles) 

What would it take to get photo journalists and video journalists on the Fediverse?

They can keep using Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, etc, too.

But, what would it take to ALSO get them here?

#SpreadFediverse #Journalism #PhotoJournalism #VideoJournalism

12:52amTusky
Show thread@reiver ⊼ (Charles) 2h ago

Related:

"A former journalist [...] explained that they could not justify maintaining a Mastodon account to their editor, because the platform’s design made it impossible to demonstrate click-through traffic"

(source: https://connectedplaces.online/reports/fr158-what-is-mastodon-for/ )

#SpreadFediverse #Journalism #PhotoJournalism #VideoJournalism

FR#158 – What is Mastodon for?

On AI and place, and how Mastodon gives tools to create communities at the instance level, but people experience 'place' at the federation level.

connectedplaces.online
Show threadGareth Kitchen2h ago
@reiver
Well, that sums things up quite nicely. :)
Show threadmegabyteGhost6h ago
@reiver Discovery. They want to be seen...it's the point of the job.
Show threadJohanna, CanCon variety6h ago

@reiver

I really think @vernissage needs a lot more attention than it is getting.

I can see it being more appealing to those who want to post photographs, period. The dev doesn't seem to be aiming for Yet Another Insta Analogue, and the visuals are more like the Glass system, with photo metadata rather than a lot of "influencer" metadata to fill in.

news-focused sites with Peertube and Vernissage could do a lot for visual+journalism tailoring.

Show threadCraig Lee6h ago
@reiver hooks in their CMS.
Show threadJack5h ago
@cell911 @reiver I'm no pro (👋 @EyeOnAlaska) but doing something the other platforms won't do, like Content Authenticity, might be one way. https://contentauthenticity.org
Content Authenticity Initiative

Join the movement for content authenticity and provenance. The CAI is a global community promoting adoption of the C2PA Content Credentials standard.

Show threadHippo 🍉2h ago

@cell911 or even go full-on with #Pterotype (for #WordPress based publications)! Then they don't even have to do the "write a post to be automatically scheduled on social media" part 😉

(I suppose it's not as good as having their own account to actually post other stuff, but there are other levels we can reach before that like actually coming back to read and respond to replies)

@reiver

Show threaddansup5h ago
@reiver better integrations with Pixelfed and Loops!
Show threadtsutrav ⁂5h ago
@reiver since journos want instant mass broadcast there would have to be a widely adopted starter pack type thing or maybe a mastodon-level filter/tag full of vetted journalists that any fedi user could opt-in & “follow all the journos”; then this would have to hook into each journalist’s “homebase" (kind of like what Ghost is working on). And then analytics. Any journalist doing what you’re asking wants to see needles move and reach increase. Not easy. It was fun back when hashtags were enough.
Show threadGareth Kitchen4h ago
@tsutrav
Isn't this just chasing the pipe dream of a no hope journalist who, in essence, wants something for nothing? tbh, I'm struggling to think of a journalist I'd care to follow even if they were on the fedi. But, what you say about hashtags...... that's interesting, isn't it?
@reiver
Show thread@reiver ⊼ (Charles) 4h ago

@gruff @tsutrav

There are a number of journalists who I pay attention to who are on YouTube, Instagram, and YouTube.

I would love to see them here, too.

Show threadGareth Kitchen3h ago
@reiver
Maybe they're the ones who need some easy, automated tool to push their content? It's not as if they bother to engage in a social media sense. But people will follow and boost it it's worthy.
Show threadJean-Baptiste Fidélia5h ago
@reiver I don't know if I'm alone in this but I find it very hard to discover things that interest me in the fediverse. It's like I'm supposed to know somehow where the stuff I would want to follow are. I do want to drastically reduce my usage of google & co but so far beside Mastodon I haven't found good alternatives. I thing it's missing some sort of temperptoof user powered killer app that allow discovery, but maybe I've just been spoiled for so long and going about it the wrong way.
Show thread@reiver ⊼ (Charles) 4h ago

@jeantranscene

There are ways we could do discovery better on the Fediverse.

(The computer science / software engineer behind how to do it is pretty well-known.)

Someone would just had to implement the tool for it

Show threadmapto4h ago

@jeantranscene @reiver at least for me, this thing is the threadiverse. Whereas mastodon is centred around people, the threadiverse is centred around topics and interests. People are complex and have various interests. As a consequence, they don't emit a consistent signal on topics.

Long story short, try this search: https://lemmy.world/search
The mechanics behind this is that you can follow threadiverse communities from mastodon as you do with users.

Search - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

Show threadNils1h ago
@reiver The apparent 40 mb limit for media attachments on many Mastodon servers makes this a hard sell. At @occrp, we routinely have to produce a dedicated version of videos for Mastodon that stay below that limit, lest posts with media won't publish. I know this is a local server limit, but it seems most servers have comparable ones. Linking to video platforms is fine, but if one wants to cross-post with platforms that favor local attachments over external links, you'll almost certainly be crafting separate versions specifically for Mastodon. And uploading a video to YouTube every time adds an extra step where mainstream platforms allow you to just include the file with the post and be done.
Show thread@reiver ⊼ (Charles) 9m ago

@nils @occrp

Is the media limit the only issue you are aware of?

Or, are there other issues, too?

Show threadElena Rossini ⁂6m ago

@reiver if I may be blunt, I think many creative people (and journalists and politicians) are too attached to vanity metrics even if their engagement on Big Tech platforms is very low. They may be afraid to start over on yet another new network where they'd have 0 followers.

This year I'm all in trying to help cultural institutions get on the Fediverse... I think once some big players are here (museums, galleries, media organizations) others will follow