Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉Apple Maps is showing Lebanon as a depopulated place. All village names erased.
Compare Lebanon, Syria and Israel.
Guess nobody lives there, they will need to send Israeli settlers to make the mountains and coastal resort towns flourish.
yosh@Migueldeicaza do you know of a map which is accurate? Open street map?
@yosh looks like open street map is fine. But you need to search in arabic. Google shows it if you really zoom in too.
Catbrainz 🇱🇧🇦🇲🏳️🌈@Migueldeicaza what the fuck
Anne Ominousand the dashed lines showing the so-called disputed border around the Golan Heights...
an area that is in SYRIA, not israel. SMFH.
should not be in dispute - israel is simply an invading, occupying force when they aren't busy promoting religious extremism and terrorism
@rustoleumlove oh very good observation!
Pinchy63 🇨🇦@rustoleumlove @Migueldeicaza
Mount Herman is also in Syria. There used to be an UN observation post on the top of it.
Mount Herman is also in Syria. There used to be an UN observation post on the top of it.
Paul Rietschka@Migueldeicaza Just don't call it lebensraum. Remember: it's not a crime if Israel does it.
Tobin Baker
Xenotime, Librarian of Æther 
@Migueldeicaza they show some of the big cities but that’s it, nothing else
you can even zoom in and see marked locations like businesses, hotels, and public squares but the village or town itself is not even marked
this is so strange and scary to look at
at first I thought maybe there’s some reason for it the government doesn’t want to share the geographical data or something but Google Maps has this place so……
you can even zoom in and see marked locations like businesses, hotels, and public squares but the village or town itself is not even marked
this is so strange and scary to look at
at first I thought maybe there’s some reason for it the government doesn’t want to share the geographical data or something but Google Maps has this place so……
@xeno yes and bing maps which is not remotely as good has everything labeled.
This seems to be a recent and purposeful change.
Bing, google, Apple and open street maps:
Michael Cook@Migueldeicaza OT: I never noticed my user icon shows up on the search bar in Apple Maps.
I saw it on yours, thought “that’s not right”, and checked.
Sure enough, my icon is there.
karussell@Migueldeicaza @xeno What purpose could this have?
@karussell @xeno “see? There is nothing there, people are making a big deal over nothing”
Franklin Delano Stallone@Migueldeicaza @xeno Without seeing it before the war it's hard to say if it is incompetence or planned.
But on Maps on macOS Matat didn't even show up initially for me and North Korea, as an example, is much more bare than Google Maps.
If the other maps go blank sure, but if it's to make people think there's nothing there then leaving it on Google maps & leaving the satellite images makes no sense.
They all rolled over on the gulf of America. I don't see Apple going out on their own on this.
Merc@Migueldeicaza This seems like one of those times where incompetence is much more likely than malice.
If it were malice, why would it just be Apple Maps? Someone would probably try to coordinate all the maps to do this simultaneously.
A data issue at Apple is far more likely. Someone fat-fingered a command and it removed all the cities in Lebanon and their QA process didn't catch it. Or the threshold for a city showing up on the map is population > X and someone messed up that value.
I used to work on an Internet maps team, though not at Apple, and these kinds of screw-ups happen. There are automatic release checks that are supposed to catch it. But, the checks tend to be "we messed this up once, let's catch it next time". There isn't much willingness to spend engineering time and effort creating new tests for theoretically possible scenarios.
disorderlyf@Migueldeicaza It does seem odd that there'd be so many roads in a place with such an allegedly small population that it's not worth labeling them.
ts 🚇@Migueldeicaza yeah, last I knew they still accepted the guy in the White House when he decided he could rename the Gulf of Mexico. What a shit-ass company 🍏
HTPC NZ@Migueldeicaza guess now we have confirmation what "i" in Apple products really stand for...
Rob Kay
Hey Gus@Migueldeicaza just downloaded the Lebanon map via comaps on iOS and it is a massive difference, checking Apple Maps it shows the same as yours though.
wtf?
¡a!n@Migueldeicaza apples are really working hard for their desired position as tech fashion for the discerning new American fascist. NGL kinda looking forward to the chance to get back into Linux stuff in my new job.
Michael Lysons@Migueldeicaza Switched Map Mode and then they appeared.
Robin Barton@Migueldeicaza Israeli colonists love to claim the land they have ethnic cleansed is empty. Remember maps tell the story of its maker
chris overcash
LanFortíssim! @Migueldeicaza
He fet algunes captures de pantalla comparant apple maps, openstreetmap (web, capa ciclista), bing i yandex (rus).
No hi ha color! Em sembla un exemple paradigmàtic de com la cartografia es fa servir com la eina de dominació, i del biaix intrínsec que implica fer un mapa. Més i tot que l'etiqueta de "Golf de Mèxic (Golf d'Amèrica)" que tenen Apple i Google (i no Bing).
Confusió entre mapa i territori. Creació de realitat. Donar forma a l'imaginari.
Si el teu poble no surt al mapa, ja no tens dret de ser aquí. Això era casa teva, ja no. Si no has fugit o no t'has deixat expulsar, t'estàs agafant al passat. Això és només una zona de guerra sense nom. Això és només una zona de contenció militar (buffer zone). El meu mapa diu que aquí no hi ha res, així que si dius el contrari, és que no acceptes la realitat.
Això és el que li diu Apple al poble libanès.
Mentre que un mapa que no s'esborra, li diu a Israel: aquí hi viu gent. Aquesta terra té noms, i camins, i llocs, i vides. El que estàs fent s'acabarà i la teva invasió haurà estat un capítol més de la història d'aquest territori.
He fet algunes captures de pantalla comparant apple maps, openstreetmap (web, capa ciclista), bing i yandex (rus).
No hi ha color! Em sembla un exemple paradigmàtic de com la cartografia es fa servir com la eina de dominació, i del biaix intrínsec que implica fer un mapa. Més i tot que l'etiqueta de "Golf de Mèxic (Golf d'Amèrica)" que tenen Apple i Google (i no Bing).
Confusió entre mapa i territori. Creació de realitat. Donar forma a l'imaginari.
Si el teu poble no surt al mapa, ja no tens dret de ser aquí. Això era casa teva, ja no. Si no has fugit o no t'has deixat expulsar, t'estàs agafant al passat. Això és només una zona de guerra sense nom. Això és només una zona de contenció militar (buffer zone). El meu mapa diu que aquí no hi ha res, així que si dius el contrari, és que no acceptes la realitat.
Això és el que li diu Apple al poble libanès.
Mentre que un mapa que no s'esborra, li diu a Israel: aquí hi viu gent. Aquesta terra té noms, i camins, i llocs, i vides. El que estàs fent s'acabarà i la teva invasió haurà estat un capítol més de la història d'aquest territori.
