mccApr 10
Convince me it is more in my interests to help build the future than to try to prevent it
Show threadaevaApr 10
@mcc the principle of "the future is here today, it is just not evenly distributed" demonstrates that many possible futures coexist in the present simultaneously, and thus it follows that we are not limited to one inevitable future. however, i conjecture that a given non-realized future is substantially less likely to come to pass if it is not first built.
Show threadIrenes (many)Apr 10
@aeva @mcc yes. humans are the mechanism by which hypotheticals enter reality. any future that wants to come here has to claw its way through our brains to do it.
Show threadIrenes (many)Apr 10

@aeva @mcc this is not intended as a response to mcc's original question. we don't think it's a good idea to build generative machine learning stuff right now. the future we want is one that can't be built ("it is in your spirit or it is nowhere"), so we aren't about to try to convince people to build things.

if you have build-y urges, make art. art means something. art will mean something, as long as humans are humans.

Show threadmccApr 10

@ireneista @aeva "ignore anything i won't collaborate with, make art" *was* my plan,

then the entities i was trying to ignore forced generative machine learning features into my operating system as i was using it,

and then when i switched to a different operating system forced generative machine learning outputs into THAT operating system.

i am made a collaborator without actually *doing* anything. software auto-update makes the decisions for me

Show threadIrenes (many)
@mcc @aeva yeah. yeah, it's fucked up. we're grappling with that ourselves.
Apr 10 at 9:24pmWeb
Show threadaevaApr 11
@ireneista @mcc which project/distro is slop scraping now