Am I realizing only now that the writers, after creating their first #ObrienMustSuffer storyline in the previous episode, felt they must immediately follow it with another???? ๐Ÿ˜‚

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@ColesStreetPothole @startrek
Okay real discussion question: Does Miles suffer more than other characters? Like we need a histogram of suffering. I feel like other characters have suffered more.
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@MisophonicSpree @ColesStreetPothole @startrek #AllStarTrek Ensign Harry Kim suffers career stagnation in the Delta Quadrant.
@WorkWithKirk @ColesStreetPothole @startrek
And Harry died like 8 whole times, right? And he's not even the real Harry Kim anymore but one from a different quantum state. Good call.
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@MisophonicSpree @ColesStreetPothole @startrek #AllStarTrek maybe that's why he never gets promoted. He has to keep starting over again.
@MisophonicSpree @WorkWithKirk @startrek
I don't think Harry had whole episodes built around intense physical suffering the way Miles did. But I certainly think his character is the one worst served by the show he was on! ๐Ÿ˜‚ His love life (or lack thereof), his career advancement (or lack thereof), and the weird deaths and diseases he suffered! Unparalleled.

@MisophonicSpree @ColesStreetPothole @startrek

Ensign Kim had a tough time of it. When he wasn't actively getting screwed, he had the daily insult of not getting promoted.

Seemed like stuff was always happening to Seven. Either conflict with the crew, Borg tech getting wonky, or the Queen's weird obsession with her.

T'Pol suffered, but she didn't acknowledge it.

Novels could be written about Geordi's love life :^D

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@lxskllr @ColesStreetPothole @startrek
Picard went through a lot of shit, including but not limited to Gul Madred. Sisko literally jumped into the fire caves...
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@MisophonicSpree @ColesStreetPothole @startrek

Chakotay had to showup every day to play a potted plant :^P

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@lxskllr @MisophonicSpree @startrek ๐Ÿ˜‚

We just watched Shattered tonight on DVD. Perhaps the best episode for his character, he and Mulgrew were so good.

@ColesStreetPothole @MisophonicSpree @startrek

I love that one! Probably a top 5 VOY for me.

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@ColesStreetPothole @MisophonicSpree @startrek

Trying to figure out my top 5 VOY to the best of my memory. In no particular order...

Bride of Chaotica!
Someone to Watch Over Me
Course Oblivion
Shattered
Counterpoint?

There's a bunch more that have segments that really stand out to me, but I think That's the 5 I'd take if I could only have those eps.

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@lxskllr @ColesStreetPothole @startrek
Wow. Really great list. VOY has so many good ones. It's so hard to narrow it to 5.

@MisophonicSpree @ColesStreetPothole @startrek

It gets really hard after you hit #4. "Ok, I get 1 more. Which will I take???"

Same with favorite characters. Getting 4 is easy. Figuring out #5 is a bit of a stumper.

Spock
Data
Worf
Seven
???

I lean towards Scotty. Garak is awesome, but he doesn't get much time. T'Pol is really interesting to watch. I like the way she moves. Phlox is quirky and cool. Quark??? Unconventional, but lots of depth. Probably Scotty

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@lxskllr @MisophonicSpree @ColesStreetPothole @startrek

Dukat is one of the most interesting characters in the franchise (the 40% or so that I've seen) imo. Extremely captivating whenever he's onscreen. Testament to Alaimo's performance through all the prosthetics.

@darth_hideout @MisophonicSpree @ColesStreetPothole @startrek

Hard to call a villain a "favorite", but you're right. He could even be likeable, but then he'd turn around and screw you all over again. Lots of layers to that guy.

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@MisophonicSpree @lxskllr @startrek
Yeah, it would be much easier for me to pick my five *least* favorite episodes. ๐Ÿ˜‚ (Though I won't, for fear of offending someone. Also, I agree with lxskllr, those five are awesome.)

There are some episodes I love simply for giving the actors some room to showcase their skill in expanding their characters. Like "infinite Regress" or "Body and Soul" for Seven, and "Faces" and "Extreme Risk" for B'Elanna.

Really enjoying our complete watch-through.

@lxskllr @ColesStreetPothole @MisophonicSpree @startrek My top 5 #StarTrekVOY episodes (off the top of my head):
โƒ Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy
โƒ Message in a Bottle
โƒ Deadlock
โƒ Counterpoint
โƒ Timeless

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@lxskllr @sezduck @MisophonicSpree @startrek Yeah, so now we have a top ten, or maybe top 13 or 14? ๐Ÿคฃ

@ColesStreetPothole @sezduck @MisophonicSpree @startrek

:^D

That's why I like a top 5 list. 1 is too few. You just say "Hell if I know", and abandon the project.

>5 is luxurious, and you can miss pain points. Too easy.

With 5, you get a very small assortment so you can have different styles, but cuts will have to be made. It focuses attention on what you really value, and how much you value it.

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@ColesStreetPothole @sezduck @MisophonicSpree @startrek

Years ago, I used to do this with my partner at work. We'd get rain time, or just not feel like working, and we'd compile best-of lists sitting in the truck. We had a notebook full of arcane lists of just about anything in life :^D

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@ColesStreetPothole @sezduck @MisophonicSpree @startrek

Stevie Ray Vaughn & Albert King - Overall Junction

Sigur Rรณs - Popplagiรฐ

Grateful Dead - Dark Star

Miles Davis - Pharaoh's Dance

Ronnie Earl - Harvard Square Stomp

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@lxskllr @sezduck @MisophonicSpree @startrek

CurrentC Black Current
Bonne Maman Four Fruits
Harvey Nichols Seville Orange Thin Cut
Stonewall Kitchen Strawberry
Wilkin and Sons Gooseberry

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@ColesStreetPothole @sezduck @MisophonicSpree @startrek

Wow, not sure I can do 5. I'll see what happens.

Trappist Preserves - Damson Plum

Kalimera - Plum

...

That's the best I an do with specifics. I like fig preserves, but they aren't super common, so I get whatever brand I can. The Danes seem to do a good job with preserves. I get whatever brand from them, favoring currant.

@lxskllr @sezduck @MisophonicSpree
We are a toast and jam centric family. ๐Ÿ˜ I could have done 10, with a lime marmalade and cherry preserves starting the second half of the list, and then maybe rose hip jam, blueberry, and apricot.

[removing the Star Trek group tag, don't think they need to hear about this diversion ๐Ÿ˜‚ ]

@ColesStreetPothole @sezduck @MisophonicSpree

:^D

I get in and out of moods with it. The Trappist Preserves are a firm favorite though. I was recently looking on their website about shipping(they do). It's become hard to find in the local stores around here.

@lxskllr @sezduck @MisophonicSpree I will have to keep my eyes open for them. ๐Ÿค” There are some good local brands popping up in upstate New York, so I pick those up when I can.

@ColesStreetPothole @lxskllr @MisophonicSpree @startrek Pakled Preserves
Jelico Jelly
Boilan Blueberry
Tuckerโ€™s Smuckers
Ferengi Tube Grub Spread

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#ObrienMustSuffer?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2naNxaRkLHg&feature=youtu.be

Is Chief Oโ€™Brien Actually Star Trekโ€™s Most Suffering Character?

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@sezduck @MisophonicSpree @ColesStreetPothole @startrek

Someone said something about Harry Kim not being the original by the end of Voyager.

In DS9, O'B picks up 20 years of memory in 45 minutes (Hard Time). In Visionary, he finds himself 5 hrs in the future but fails to save his future self iirc. Or the other way around. He takes the place of his dead self, gaining or losing 5 hrs in the process.

@sezduck @MisophonicSpree @ColesStreetPothole @startrek

Oh yeah. He was 5h in the past. So after that he's 5h older. That's how it went.

@darth_hideout @sezduck @MisophonicSpree @startrek Valid points. And I will throw in, in Deadlock, who are the "original" characters? They are duplicated, and one whole ship survives!