Mastodawn

[P] I'm curious about the intersection of the normalised monster traits of humanity and breeding. To begin, the world is clearly overpopulated, claiming otherwise is spreading wealthy whitey billionaire propaganda.

https://www.sciencealert.com/earths-population-has-surpassed-the-planets-capacity-study-suggests

The earth IS grossly overpopulated. This is science fact. So why is it denied? Why is the propaganda believed? I want to examine that a little bit.

#psychology #actuallyautistic #neurotypicals #science #childfree #overpopulation #overshoot

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Earth's Population Has Surpassed The Planet's Capacity, Study Suggests

The human population has already grown too large and demanding for Earth to sustainably support at current consumption levels, a new study warns.

ScienceAlert

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Weary Wulf 17h ago

[P] I can see how the instinct to procreate could be well served by the monstrous traits of greed, tribalism, and empathy deficit. Greed empowers the procreational instinct, to spread genes, to be a parent. Tribalism empowers the act, as the desire is to create more of us than there is of them (white replacement, et al). And empathy deficit means one doesn't give to much care to the future.

#psychology #actuallyautistic #neurotypicals #science #childfree #overpopulation #overshoot

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Weary Wulf 17h ago

[P] "Why shouldn't I breed if others do? In this future, we'll just keep taking from others to support MY child." It's a feedback loop beteeen the monstrous traits and the procreational instinct. "What care I of the turgid circumstance of tomorrow when my child is todsy?" It carries that essence of a puppy being for life, not just for Christmas—a point which many humans fail at aswell.

#psychology #actuallyautistic #neurotypicals #science #childfree #overpopulation #overshoot

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Weary Wulf 15h ago

[P] Further, greed invites thoughts of legacy snd the indentured servitude of the child. It's laughable to say that this isn't a consideration in the mind of every parent. "Who'll look after me when I'm old? Who'll look after my vocation and legacy?" The child is seen as a play for quasi-immortality, and a carer bound by ball-wnd-chain in blood. If the child were thoight of first? One just wouldn't.

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Weary Wulf 15h ago

[P] I think it's callous to bring a child into this cruelty. Thanks to monsters, ours is a dying world, and a cruel one. Everything is worse for each new generation. As it stands, without extreme population degrowth? There is no future. It'll only get worse. How could one look at such a cruel, dying world and think "Gosh, what a perfect environment for a child!" without being a monster?

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11SprongingProngs11 15h ago

@wearywulf

Fascinating essay on commoditization of the child.

Incidentaly, I'm going to leave this link which bridges to one of the sources I use when doing more formal work on food justice.
The first line is a pretty bold statement in simple words, but the statistics for the coverpage are handy there.

https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/food

I warn you, believing there IS enough and that people often CHOOSE ecologically safer production rates when they aren't prevented from doing so.

Food | United Nations

Despite recent progress in reducing global hunger, severe food crises persist—particularly in Africa and Western Asia, where the situation remains critical. At the current pace, the world is still far off track to achieve Zero Hunger by 2030.

United Nations

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Roy -- the dull one 15h ago

@wearywulf

You're somewhat right. There are too many people now. Humanist civilization is collapsing. The brutalism of 6000 years ago is back. Most humans will have horrible lives, while a few deviates will do as they please. However...

It's not a good idea for good, decent, smart people to choose to be childless. Should we extinguish all that is good?

Better, maybe, to have one child. Raise it strong, righteous, and learned. Help it survive the Hellstorm. The World won't die.

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Solar🌄Garden 13h ago

@oldclumsy_nowmad @wearywulf

if you want to try to parent in a way that brute society doesn't facilitate, best would be to join/hang-out-in/explore "egalitarian" communities. Single children of odd parents dont necessarily do well alone and are intensive! You could even be a co-parent without having to reproduce!

@communelife regularly posts resources from that world here.

ic.org is another rich resource

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Roy -- the dull one 11h ago

@wavesculptor @wearywulf @communelife

Kids really do need other kids. And it's good to observe and learn from older/younger children, and multiple adults. Several friends (or relatives, or people with common interests and opinions) can arrange shared play and learning for their kids.

I don't think having just one child means that the child has to be lonely or unsocialized. We need to think in creative ways about child-rearing, but we don't have to produce too many children.