I miss the olden days when I could manage to give even one fractional shit about human spaceflight.

When every news article didn't require navigating whether it was propaganda, or a grift, or both (because it's *never* science).

When I thought that humanity surviving beyond Earth was even *remotely* possible.

This timeline sucks.

https://jwz.org/b/yk51

Once there is:

• A luxury hotel atop Everest, or
• A settlement 500m below the surface of any ocean; or
• Any city getting 30% of its veggies/grains from subway hydroponics; or
• Vegas making all of its own water;

...then I will concede that we have solved the first 1% of the problems needed to be a spacefaring species.

Absent any of that, putting monkeys in a can is just a premature stunt.

This timeline sucks.

@jwz

...the bulk of the remaining problems being in the fleshy component, and the most intractable of those being the psychology...

(Has it occurred to you that the experience of running a club may give you special insight into the problems and requirements for long-term deep space isolation of a small community of energetic humans?)

@electropict I just hope to best Quark's 830+ year run. https://jwz.org/b/yk2_
Future of the Ferry Building

I'm pretty sure that the Vaillancourt Fountain is still there in the year 3195. It's hard to tell because some palm trees are blocking it, but that looks like the East wall to me. It's directly below the Tulip statue. Proving that we are in the Terran Empire timeline, that means it will have lasted 1,169 years longer than it will in our universe. Not only is the Hyatt still there, but the ...