GrapheneOSThis is an extreme misrepresentation of both what Gaël Duval said in this interview and our response to it. What he clearly said is that /e/ and Murena aren't providing security hardening which he claims is only useful for pedophiles, criminals and spies. Gaël Duval has repeatedly said this in his posts including ones where he directly says GrapheneOS is only useful for pedophiles, criminals and spies. We can show archives of numerous posts with him saying exactly that.
🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧📎 Ambiyelp@GrapheneOS I would switch to grapheneOS if I could use it on fairphone because I believe in an absolute right to privacy its not just for abusers. I'm not going to get a phone other than the fairphone because it's more important to me that there is no slavery and conflict minerals used in the phone and the modularity is a nice plus too. So unless grapheneOS supports a phone that has these features I can't ethically justify buying a phone without them just to use it.
#GrapheneOS #Android #Fairphone #ConflictMinerals #ModernSlavery
Daniël@ambiguous_yelp @GrapheneOS maybe buying a second-hand Pixel is an option? Re-using a phone is a great way of reducing the impact of phone production.
Fairphone is bad when it comes to security. It doesn't have a secure element like the Titan M2 in the Pixel (only TrustZone) and their kernels, firmware blobs etc. are way outdated. Even on the FP6 they are still shipping firmware blobs from June last year, even though Qualcomm does monthly security bulletins.
nebucatnetzer@danieldk @ambiguous_yelp @GrapheneOS It is bad choises all around.
Using a second hand phone reduces the climate impact a bit but you're increasing the value of the device which is from an U.S. company. Especially one that has currently increasingly stupid ideas how Android should evolve.
In the end everybody has to pick their poison.
Using a second hand phone reduces the climate impact a bit but you're increasing the value of the device which is from an U.S. company. Especially one that has currently increasingly stupid ideas how Android should evolve.
In the end everybody has to pick their poison.
@nebucatnetzer @ambiguous_yelp @GrapheneOS That is very much a secondary effect though. By buying a new Fairphone you are directly financing a Chinese ODM (T2Mobile) that develops the hardware and software, with proprietary Chinese TCL blobs.
And for the large price you get a phone with an SoC, cameras, and speakers of a 200-300 Euro phone.
Most of the extra cost does not go to wages, the extra wage cost is ~$1.90 according to their own marketing materials
@nebucatnetzer @ambiguous_yelp @GrapheneOS Conflict-free minerals are a good point, but you save a lot more minerals (and thus labor extracting these minerals) by buying a second-hand phone, or ensuring that your phone gets a good second life by e.g. selling it.
@nebucatnetzer @ambiguous_yelp @GrapheneOS Moreover, what is better for longevity, a phone that gets nearly all updates on day 1 and has an SoC that is fast enough for years to come or a phone that is a security risk from day 1 and had a pretty mediocre SoC even when it was released?
E.g. Fairphone promised at least five years of updates for the Fairphone 4. However, in 2026 it still running a Linux patch release (4.19.197) from 2021.