Keep Android OpenMar 18
How do you feel about the impending lockdown of Android?
Good, it is necessary for our safety and security
0.9%
OK, I trust Google to prioritize user interests
0.5%
Bad, it is an attempt to take complete control
57.3%
Terrible, this is the end of software freedom
41.3%
Poll ended at .
Show threadTerminal TiltMar 18

@keepandroidopen

It is bad but it is not the end unless we decide to not fight.

Show threadTravis F WMar 19
@terminaltilt @keepandroidopen I highly doubt google is doing this absent pressure.
Giving the right person inside Google the right reasons and numbers to write the right letter to the right person is what could turn it around.
Is that what you mean by "fight"?
Show threadTerminal TiltMar 19

@travisfw @keepandroidopen

That is part of it, but fighting is also about creating social pushback. When we’re loud, bring attention to these changes, and refuse to accept them as the new normal, we change the math for them. Google needs to know that locking down Android is a PR disaster that drives their loyal users and developers away.

Show threadspaceKiteMar 21
@terminaltilt
"Away" where would we go?
Show threadpoppy ribbon16h ago

@spaceKite @terminaltilt
There are multiple Ways.

Some People will buy a Fairphone with /e/OS.

Some People will use their other Computers more — Desktop, Laptop, Gaming Handheld (yes, there’s Gaming Handhelds with a full Linux Desktop), single‑Chip Computers (like Raspberry Pi).

And multiple Entities will ramp up Development of “Android Translation Layer” (yes, it doesn’t have a catchy Name), so that Linux Phones can run all the Android Apps that People would otherwise miss.

Show threadspaceKite
@sosasees
Can Linux or /e/OS run banking apps? If not, then that is a major setback for Android users when shifting. We would just have to install Google Play services on /e/OS, GrapheneOS, or something similar.
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Show threadpoppy ribbon6h ago

@spaceKite Many Banking Apps ask the “Play Integrity API” wether they should function on the current Device.

But the Play Integrity API doesn’t answer how secure the Device is.
It answers how much the installed Android System is Google‑approved.

There’s a “Play Inteprity Fix” Module that can spoof full Device Integrity.
It’s only usable for tech‑savvy People
but it’s the first Step.