Mastodawn

In the last year I've more intensively used the Scouts NSW "ScoutHub" member management system, backed by Revolutionise.com.au.

There is a lot of things missing which would make the life of every leader in Scouts NSW happier, and in the last two weeks I've dived into Greasemonkey/Tampermonkey again to regain these features.

If you look at https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts?q=scouthub, you will see four scripts now:

- Two to add the age in years and months of the members to the overviews, instead of only years.

- One to also show the members who did not yet respond to an event invitation (long story, serious lack of functionality in the product, everybody is complaining about it)

- One to remove cruft from events pages when you print them.

The revolutionise backend generates none of the HTML elements with an id attribute, so I'm afraid I will be back in the future counting elements.............

#scouts #scoutsnsw #scouthub #revolutionise #greasemonkey #tampermonkey

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Blacksmith 3d ago

@mavetju we have just had an edict from WA branch. No software is to be used unless specifically sanctioned. No OSM, no other club manager, etc. probably not even google sheets.

We are now stuck with ScoutMap, and Terrain.

I don't want to go back to paper logs, but maybe it will be the easiest.

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Edwin Groothuis 2d ago

@Blacksmithoz ScoutMap sounds like a toolset for event organisation. While we don't have official tools for it here in NSW, we do have to provide Activity Descriptions, Risk Assessment and Parent Permission forms into a Jira instance for tracking of events. This workflow was made / more enforced after insurance renewal issues ("What do you mean you don't know how many abseiling activities you have per year?" and "How many incidents did you have for them?").

ScoutHub is member management, which was enforced after Scouts NSW got too upset about the amount of times members got not properly registered with them until just before a big event. It's not too bad as a concept, but the tool sucks as the provider made a generic tool and Scouts NSW / the groups are not able to enhance their needs on it easily.

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Blacksmith 2d ago

@mavetju Scoutmap is a salesforce instance. It has taken 2 years to get it to a point where it is almost usable. Terrain is Scouts Australia progression tool, almost useful.

Way too many steps to do anything, no notification of when anything happens and someone should know about it.

Parents find it fairly impenetrable, and leaders have no ability to make any changes, so every dealing is directly with branch.

So when it comes to big events parents have difficulties registering new children and trying to get on an activity. They miss out. It doesn't make for great relationships.

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Blacksmith 2d ago

@mavetju I don't know why they keep choosing to reinvent the wheel. There are plenty of off the shelf, and even scout specific packages available which leaders and parents are happy with.

But who are we.