the main thing making me support right-to-repair laws is that I need to make my car’s manufacturer give me whatever horrific software is running the touchscreen so I can rewrite it
@noah CarPlay isn’t that bad
@schwa that’s the only software in the entire car that works right. I started the car and tried to adjust the temperature and it somehow missed the touch-up so it just kept adjusting. absurd
@noah Ah, I have solved that one by reading the warnings about touchscreens in cars and deciding that I won't buy any such car.
@noah I'm glad to have never owned a car with a touchscreen. I'd gone car-free before that became a thing, so the last car I had had real gauges with real needles and a real radio with an actual dial. Oh, and window cranks of course.

@stevenaleach @noah ironically I was car-free from 1981 (gave up the family ’56 VW Bug -not even a gas gage- for 40 years of public transportation) to 2020 - Tesla Model Y — which absolutely does have a screen with excellent software— everything from Dog Mode to FSD none of which exist in a car with dials or gauges, or even with CarPlay.

I am all for being car-free, but claiming that ICE cars (with dials & gages) are better than EVs is simply false

@TedTodorov @noah And not a claim anyone would be likely to make either, I'd expect. Seriously, I've never heard a single person ever try to claim that internal combustion was "better" in any way.

EDIT: On further thought, I'm sure those people *do* exist... but it'd be like trying to defend vacuum tubes and claiming they are somehow superior to solid state for building computers. No matter how dumb the argument, someone somewhere is probably making it.

@noah
There is absolutely no reason you should need an OBD2 scanner to read troublecodes on a car with a touch screen UI! You should be able to see them all right there.