https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/wallet-development-documentation-public/latest/architecture-concept/06-mobile-devices/02-mdvm/

So, it turns out the German implementation of eIDAS (electronic ID wallet for e.g. age attestation) will require an Apple/Google account to function

Absolutely pathetic

Mobile Device Vulnerability Management Concept - German National EUDI Wallet: Architecture Documentation

If a German citizen gets sanctioned by the US government, once this is implemented (later this year), that means they will no longer be able to be a participating member of German society, e.g. to show their (digital) driver's license to traffic police

@pojntfx As much as I am with you on the whole "account needed" thing, I think not being able to show a digital license on my phone will imepede my ability of being a functional member of society.

Or, to put it another way, you basically wrote "Everyone without a digital license no longer is a functioning member of society", which is just plain wrong.

@pojntfx Thing is: we must NEVER accept any digital-only solution for things like this (IDs, license etc.). Analouge/offline life must ALWAYS be possible!

...regardless of where it's hosted.

@Bebef @pojntfx yeah, i know you can take a picture of your license here in the us and give your phone to a cop in some places, but i would never. rather just hand over my physical license card i paid way too much money for and always carry with me outside the house. just like my phone, but im not handing that to anyone, nor my physical wallet.

@makeitmythic @pojntfx "Too much money" is a funny thing to say for a US driving license. German prices are in the $4k ball park.

Not trying to diminish anything, just giving a point of reference.

@Bebef @pojntfx yeah, i only had to pay like $80 here, but where im originally from it was only like $30 per ~8 years. it cost me $300 to take drivers ed where im from. it looks like to get a license in germany wout lessons its ~425 euro, according to the us embassy website.