Well, I decided to break my conventional media omerta on #Artemis II this afternoon, & spent ten minutes on LBC Radio with Ali Miraj.

He's clearly sceptical about space exploration, including the billionaire bros & the wider geopolitical context.

I was invited on to "big up" space, to talk about the science, & probably to be gushy & enthusiastic, but as I actually agree with most of his concerns (even if some are not particularly well-informed), I'm not sure there was much point.

But at least I got to explain that Europe & the UK are key players in Artemis, which he evidently didn't know, & that the lunar south pole is a scientifically interesting place given the water there in shadowed craters.

And I also explained that Artemis II is a lunar flyby test, Artemis III is a LEO docking test, & Artemis IV will be the first crewed landing, but he still seems to think that if you're going to the Moon now, why not just pop down to the surface for a stroll?

I also mentioned the inspirational effect, that many kids will be watching Artemis & some will be excited about careers in STEM, hopefully.

But it also illustrated the oddity of talk radio, inasmuch as while my bits were just kind of "statements", he was actually having more substantial to & fro discussions with the callers who came later.

Again, I suspect we agree on much more than was perhaps clear. Maybe we should do this again, in person, & with an hour to bounce things back & forth.

@markmccaughrean I am missing a good visible ESA sign on the service module. ESA is not or rarely mentioned in the NASA coverage.

@werdenfels @AkaSci Other side, I think – that's a picture from Artemis I, IIRC, but I've seen at least one picture that suggests the same big NASA worm logo is on the base of Orion again.

As for why there's no equally large & prominent ESA logo, well, I suspect you realise that that's a rhetorical question 🙂

@werdenfels There was a pretty visible ESA logo on the Orion/ESM fairing, as seen in this image:

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2026/03/Orion_on_a_roll

and there's a smaller one on the section which joins Orion & the ESM:

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2026/03/Lifting_Artemis_II_Orion_spacecraft_into_the_Neil_A._Armstrong_Operations_and_Checkout_Building

Plus @AkaSci has posted an inflight image which shows the logo, which is good.

Orion on a roll

In October 2025, the Artemis II Orion – complete with crew module, ESA’s European Service Module, solar arrays and launch abort system – was rolled 10 kilometres to the Vehicle Assembly Building at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center, for stacking onto the Space Launch System rocket.

@werdenfels @AkaSci As for ESA not being mentioned much in NASA coverage, quelle surprise 🙄

I mean, I remember the kerfuffle at Kourou on Christmas Day 2021, when JWST was launched on Ariane 5.

At the very last minute & despite weeks of tests & months of agreements, NASA suddenly declared that it was impossible to put the ESA logo next to the NASA one on the launch livestream.

Even though the livestream was coming from ESA.

An honest technical snafu? Sure, & I have a bridge to sell you ...

@markmccaughrean @AkaSci
I meant here. Big NASA logo, but no ESA.
@markmccaughrean @AkaSci
Ok, this was Artemis 1, but it's the same at Artemis 2.