@jon @mkyral thank you for this contribution, do you feel i should be less impressed because something challenging achieved was necessary?

@lunaticfriki @casdeiro @jon
Democracy isn’t rocket science, is it?
As far back as 2,500 years ago, people in Athens were chosen by lot to make sensible decisions together with others. Ireland has brought about significant constitutional reforms through lot-based citizens’ assemblies.
And take a look at how well the German-speaking Community (Deutschsprachige Gemeinschaft) in East Belgium works.

@lunaticfriki @jon Yes, it could be argued in that way, but that could lead us to think that science, tech, etc. PRODUCES energy, which is a wrong (and dangerous) believe. They can only help you get energy and materials that already exist. But once you deplete them (fossil fuel, uranium...), they are of little use. So, the main (necessary) factor here is energy (without it even if you have materials and technology you cannot extract and transform them).