NerdNextDoor Mar 29

Following what I said in a thread days ago, I repurposed an old Codeberg org I never used.

Introducing Project Anchorage. A (soon-to-be proper) group of users who aim to take back computing from the slop machines and sloperators.

The current goal to, over time, make a non-slop stack. An OS, apps, etc. However, to enforce this, I plan to only let people with a history of resisting/not using AI in.

https://codeberg.org/ProjectAnchorage

Fluxer: https://fluxer.gg/XlrYjF5a
Matrix: #project-anchorage:matrix.org

Project Anchorage

Users who aim to take back computing from the slop machines and sloperators.

Codeberg.org
Show threadNerdNextDoor Mar 30

I'll call the kernel Echium.

https://codeberg.org/ProjectAnchorage/Echium

Echium

A slop-free kernel.

Codeberg.org
Show threadNerdNextDoor Mar 30

Made an Echium README!

https://codeberg.org/ProjectAnchorage/Echium/src/branch/main/README.md

Echium/README.md at main

Echium - A slop-free kernel.

Codeberg.org
Show threadNerdNextDoor Mar 30

First issue discussing the initials

https://codeberg.org/ProjectAnchorage/Echium/issues/1

Bootloaders/protocols, other architectures and languages

Currently, I would focus on x86(_64) as it's the most supported in general and a majority of people would daily drive x86 systems. Later on we could do RISC-V or ARM. I plan to stick to C and architecture-dependent assembly for almost all of this. Zig and Rust use LLVM which has devolved into slo...

Codeberg.org
Show threadNerdNextDoor Mar 30

Also, on a related note, Project Anchorage is open to adding people on who have a history of opposing AI and writing non-AI code.

If you want to be added to the org, just let me know.

Show threadNerdNextDoor Mar 30
I do want to call the OS/userland Echinops as well in the future once Echium is stable enough.
Show threadNerdNextDoor Mar 30
I kind of want to give Project Anchorage a fedi account but I dunno where. mastodon.social is totally out of the question honestly, I wouldn't put it here at all.
Show threadNerdNextDoor Mar 31

I have made a new commit in Echium, bringing in a stable Limine base from limine-c-template and implemented Flanterm!

https://codeberg.org/ProjectAnchorage/Echium/commit/0eae5cb00f954c02ec6564fa124db5af681420c6

Adapt the Limine C Template for Echium, implement Flanterm · 0eae5cb00f

https://codeberg.org/Limine/limine-c-template

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Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2

Everyone, I apologise profusely. Limine contains AI slop introduced by the creator.

The commit mentioned there has been reverted and force-pushed away out of master.

Meanwhile, I've made a PR for Limine in open-slopware. https://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware/pulls/263

#FuckAI

Add Limine

The creator of Limine has started to allow AI slop into the codebase from Claude. They've also been pretty for genAI in the "Low Level / Assembly" Fluxer server in the #off-topic channel, although I'm not really wanting to upload those as this commit is enough proof. I must also mention, there...

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Show threadthe thing is moving soon Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard O_O
that was a damn close call...
opening a issue to ban ai contributions NOW
we cannot lose this bootloader, efi boot stubs are a fucking pain :(
(systemd-boot is just...bleh, and grub is dated & bloated)
Show threadthe thing is moving soon Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard wait hold on.
what about rEFInd?
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@thing I'm not even going to begin to fuck with that. Nothing directly compares with Limine at all. Limine made it easier and now we're losing it.
Show threadthe thing is moving soon Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard I'm aware. but having a fallback is always good.
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@thing If Limine doesn't back down from AI, I'm going to fork their org repos under Project Anchorage. I swear to god, I will revert back to fucking v8.x if I have to.
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@thing actually though, I don't think the creator will ban AI tbh.
Show thread🌸 lumi-nhac    🌱Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard @thing making excuses to use this very unethical technology

your privilege is showing mintsuki and gamiee ​​

there is no ethical genai usage
Show threadNerdNextDoor 
@lumi @thing there were two others, but honestly, I don't want to drag anyone but Mint into this. They are responsible for this, no one else.
Apr 2 at 8:56pmTuba
Show thread🌸 lumi-nhac    🌱Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard @thing i feel like everyone being ok with the technology is responsible to some extent

there is ofc a gradation, but i still feel they are responsible
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2

@lumi @thing Honestly, I pretty much give up with the whole forking Limine idea. I honestly have no idea how far back that undiscovered AI stuff could have slipped in.

The world is fucked.

Show thread🌸 lumi-nhac    🌱Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard @thing make a best effort guess and start from there, i would say. eventually you're going to be overwriting the slop while developing it
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@lumi @thing I honestly thought of forking from version 4 which was 3 years ago, specifically from the commit before aarch64 support was introduced. It would have made the fork x86,x86_64 only but it would have been easier to manage.
Show threadthe thing is moving soon Apr 2
@lumi @mrmasterkeyboard another practical problem is this:
the sloppers (sadly) have millions of (spineless) people developing the software, while we got nothing compared to them. how can we even compete?
Show thread🌸 lumi-nhac    🌱Apr 2
@thing @mrmasterkeyboard free software has always been way more efficient with resources. we don't need to reimplement literally everything they do with all of the features they have

we just need to implement what we (as a community) want. features we don't use are useless and there is a lot of software we do not care about
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@thing @lumi that's the point. we don't. i didn't start Project Anchorage to just compete. it's to exist. to provide a space for people who want no slopware. we aren't competing. we're just trying to make the world a better place, even if unnoticed.
Show thread🌸 lumi-nhac    🌱Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard @thing the whole capitalist notion of constant growth is stupid. we just need to take care of one-another and that's it
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@lumi @thing from here on out, the Echium project is going to be at a standstill for a while until i can figure out how the fuck it'll even boot.
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@lumi @thing or, or, maybe... we just pull a coreboot and directly boot shit.
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2

@lumi @thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot#Design

OR ACTUALLY why don't we make our own bootloader or ACTUALLY FUCK IT MAYBE OUR OWN BIOS OR SOMETHING BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS SAFE ANYMORE-

coreboot - Wikipedia

Show thread🌸 lumi-nhac    🌱Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard @thing one thing at a time x3
Show thread🌸 lumi-nhac    🌱Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard @thing like, not literally one thing at a time, but, pace yourself. you burning yourself out will do no-one good

accepting temporary defeat is alright, you can always pick up the battle again later
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@lumi @thing i have to think of multiple things... and route could just become ai compromised at any moment...
Show thread🌸 lumi-nhac    🌱Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard @thing i gotcha, but you getting burnt out will lead nowhere ​​
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@lumi @thing i know, but i need to do something right now... my brain works weirdly... if i don't work, i consider myself useless and then i get depressed...
Show threadthe thing is moving soon Apr 2
@mrmasterkeyboard @lumi wait what's wrong with the design? ​​
Show threadNerdNextDoor Apr 2
@thing @lumi nah, i sent it weirdly, i wanted to link to the design but i also added a rant not about coreboot at all. nothing is wrong with coreboot, just another idea.