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UPDATE - Gnome account blocked me!

I guess they don't like their comfortable zionism being questioned.

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@gnome

Please can you reconsider why

1. People from Iran are prevented from taking part

BUT

2. People from Israel are welcome.

This is pretty serious - and shows you have your values very very wrong.

And no, you can't hide behind a choose-your-own-sanctions-regime.

#zionism #tech #bias #racism

@rapsneezy @gnome you need to talk to the US Congress about this. GNOME Foundation is US-based entity, we genuinely cannot do anything about this.

If it was up to me I wouldn't exclude anyone just because of where they were born/live, but alas, I cannot do anything about it.

@rapsneezy @gnome also, "people from Israel" are welcome because peoples are not governments, so you may want to recalibrate your racism

@gnome

Someone replied then blocked me.

They said it was US law.

But there are 200 countries on this planet.

Get out of the USA.

@gnome

Why are people from Iran not allowed?

But people from *** are allowed?

I see replies suggesting this is US law.

But you can move outside the USA, that doesn't seem like a sincere excuse.

I seem to recall OpenBSD moved outside the USA to Canada due to their immoral laws.

There are many reasons not to be in the USA.

Saying it takes effort tells us how much you value your comfort vs human suffering.

#tech #opensource #gnome #openbsd

@rzeta0 @gnome

But you can move outside the USA, that doesn't seem like a sincere excuse.

Move where? Most countries in western hemisphere does the same. And moving isn't easy, it's not to be talked about lightly

@tragivictoria @gnome

As the other persons said, there are almost 200 countries on planet earth.

Many of them are not in, as I think you wanted to say "the west".

@rzeta0 @gnome Yes, but a lot of them are not viable to move to. That's the sad reality.

That being said, I'm not speaking for Foundation.

@rzeta0

On that note, it's not quite that simple to move outside without losing all you have build up. I honestly would appreciate a fully independent GNOME Europe and GNOME Asia branch of the foundation, but this wouldn't really cover this specific issue.

@tragivictoria
@gnome

@rzeta0 While I agree that GNOME Foundation should consider moving out of US, I would also like to say that OpenBSD moving from Nazi Reich to Nazi Reich Collaborator shouldn't be used as higher moral ground.

The West status quo is that "We don't care about Iran and we lean against them, but we don't want to fund US war".

Also not in any way defending Iran's Fascist Government.

@proficiency @rzeta0

Iran is not a fascist government.

You're consuming too much Fox News.

@rapsneezy Yes they are. And no, I am not American. It is Islamofascist Government, I am quite familiar with Islamofascist rethoric.

It is as bad as US Nazi Government. The Iranian people need change, not from Nazi US, not from Islamofascist Iranian, and certaintly not from the Cuck Shah.

New government, entirely made by and for the Iranian people, not the clergy.

@proficiency

you're demonstrating your ignorance of Iran

I suspect I won't change your mind

but others reading this thread might be prompted to challenge their own views and ask themselves how much of their idea of Iran has been formed by decades of persistent propaganda.

millions of people people around the world are increasingly realising they've been lied to about Israel, about Iran - if you're not one of them, that's ok

@rapsneezy You're right, you won't.

But you have to realize that the issue is not without nuances.

While there are millions of people realizing that US Empire is Fascist, there are also millions who realized that Iran Government also Fascist.

There are considerable amount of nuances I will not be able to convey on a single post.

@gnome

I have decided never to use Gnome as long as it behaves like this.

And I will be advising people of good conscience not to either, highlighting the disparity that you don't allow fellows from Iran but you do from ***, citing inconvenience as your reason not to do anything about it.

You've made clear your values.

Thanks for at least doing that.