My opinion on #matrix is slowly turning around. For years I promoted it as the best #FOSS chat protocol that will eventually become the "glue that connects all communication platforms together".

But the frustration with various issues within Matrix ecosystem keeps growing:

- Still can't log into matrix.org account with #Nheko on #Linux. Getting Cloudflare timeout (Error 524). Is my IP cursed?

- Apparently I also timeout when trying to view rooms in some space in Element desktop.

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- I don't know, because element-desktop either does not take -v or --verbose, --help shows nothing about verbose output, there is no man page. So despite looking at spinning circle, there are no new lines being printed in the terminal. No idea what is going wrong.

- At FOSDEM2026 Matrix State of the Union, Matthew said that "these are all mature clients", while showing a list that contained Nheko and some other not-exactly-feature-complete clients.

- Cinny has no --help or man page.

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Also why can't #Element load rooms in the space hierarchically.
As in, list all the top-level spaces first before loading all the rooms that are inside them.
Space is just a room, and it has m.space.child , which is just top space.
So you could easily just display the parsed history of the space first, before recursively loading all the rooms within the first space that it comes across.

Or is this not an issue and people can easily open big spaces like https://matrix.to/#/#gaming-space:matrix.org ?
Is my IP cursed?

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