Christine Lemmer-WebberSubmitted without commentary: "AI Might Be Our Best Shot At Taking Back The Open Web" by Mike Masnick https://www.techdirt.com/2026/03/25/ai-might-be-our-best-shot-at-taking-back-the-open-web/
this is just slopaganda
slopaganda (n): promoting using AI generated tools to worsen your life and everyone's life around you
Marcus "MajorLinux" Summers@cwebber But is it that, though?
Or are people still looking at it from a reactionary point of view?
Are people using this technology in ways that it shouldn’t have been intended because it was sold to them by people who wanted to maximize profit by any means necessary.
This is like saying that HTML is the devel because Palantir uses it to code their websites.
It’s like saying the compass is evil because that’s how the slave ships navigated the Atlantic Ocean.
Mark Shane Hayden"This is like saying that HTML is the devel because Palantir uses it to code their websites.
It’s like saying the compass is evil because that’s how the slave ships navigated the Atlantic Ocean."
But it isn't AT ALL like that. Palantir did not invent HTML and slave traders didn't invent the compass. In neither case did they directly profit or gain power by the mass adoption of those technologies by society.
This is more like adopting and becoming dependent on a product or service specifically provided by Palantir or taking a job constructing or operating the ships owned by the slave trader.
@msh Neither did these companies create “artificial intelligence” nor the methods in which it was created.
All they did was take open tools and built the torment nexus because it would make them a ton of money.
Who’s to say we couldn’t also take the tools and make something that would have benefited humanity and the planet?
Earlier iterations of this same tech already exist and don’t exploit.
New versions exist that don’t exploit.
@msh So, instead of going after the tech, shouldn’t we be spending the resources going after those who have exploited it for profit and gain at the expensive of the working class?
If they weren’t allowed to dictate how things worked in society, we wouldn’t be here having this conversation in the first place.
@majorlinux the problem is that, without exception, every single technology and model and tool extant in the LLM based GenAI space was developed and brought forward by toxic Big Tech folks with their own immoral agendas. They are intrinsically "defective by design"
Yes this does include open source and locally run models and tools.
(If you think I am mistaken please provide an example of contemporary GenAI products that to not have essential ties to toxic big tech)
Yes, it is possible to "seize the means of production" as you describe in the general sense, but if those means of production are intrinsically defective by design...incapable of producing at acceptable levels of quality and efficiency and incapable of providing agency to creators...then it should not be adopted.
@msh What I am saying is that we can and have done better than what has already been done.
Also, if we’re looking at the sets of training data that has already been included in these models that already exist, I posit this thought:
What were they ingesting?
Why aren’t we allowed to have a say in what is being done here?
We can untether what we have from the processes that made it.
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