Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

https://alpaca.gold/@seldo/116286099611905851

(Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)

More context:
@dalias WTF?
@lawyersgunsnmoney AFAICT he made a bot you hand your social media credentials over to and it logs in to all your accounts, scrapes everything, and passes it to an LLM service to "summarize" (and keep for training). Utter clownery. Normally I would just block, but I'm screenshotting and sharing this because it's a privacy threat to everyone.

@dalias @lawyersgunsnmoney he them goes and insults everyone here who values privacy even the slightest to top it all off.
Then criticized the Fediverse and pointing reason why he left.

Just typical harassment/abuser "You are the problem, not me! It's all your fault."

@YvanDaSilva @dalias @lawyersgunsnmoney Thanks for flagging up which user it is. Blocked from my server along with the IP address of his prod instance of the tool.
@gunchleoc @YvanDaSilva @dalias That is great, thank you!
@dalias I *very*much appreciate your sharing this info. It’s people like like this, stealing and monetizing Fedi people’s info (leaving aside he’s an entitled douche). I’m blocking him right after I ‘share my feelings”
For awareness:
@mastodonmigration
@dalias @lawyersgunsnmoney any reason not to block the entirety of alpaca dot gold? without me having to go to check
@wyatt @lawyersgunsnmoney Not really. It's an instance with a single-digit number of users who are in his circle of friends. Your call if you think they deserve to be cut off from lots of fedi by association. 🤷
@dalias @lawyersgunsnmoney there are three users on my instance, two of which are active, and one of that subset is me and the other is much more block-happy than I am
@dalias @lawyersgunsnmoney hmm, npm founder

not somebody i would want to be a friend of a friend of, probably
@dalias this person really does not understand what consent is, does he?
@lumi @dalias He also doesn't understand what legislation is too. This is against GPDR.
@dalias done. Don't need yet another weirdo wanting to scrape my sac for info

@dalias holy fuck, how is that individual, instance AND client still NOT BANNED???

Cc @stux

@dalias why would you want a summary of a post feed like mastodon? What is the point?
@xri @dalias
Random guess:
To sell to others 🤷
@YvanDaSilva @xri Kinda, but I think the point is kinda to be able to dismiss people's opinions as whatever the slop-extruder claims is the "summary" of them, but pretend you considered them.

@YvanDaSilva @xri Like, if you have techbro brain and someone in your replies says something insightful in a way you haven't heard before, it has a chance of breaking thru and making you reconsider things.

But if you get it "summarized" by replacing it with a blend of the closest commonly-repeated stuff from your corpus, you're gonna interpret it as "oh yeah, just more of the same complaints I've already dismissed".

It's basically "turning your audience into yes-men as a service", which sounds like his peers would love it.

@dalias that sounds like "blocking" here means not appearing on someone else's feed

The Mastodon API is publicly available and blocking the author of the app or the instance won't do anything

RE: https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/116289558240910154

@natty In the case of this app, it scrapes from its user's feed, so if you block its user, you will not be in the feed it scrapes.

These techbros want us to believe their "it's silly to have norms if the machine can't enforce them" bullshit. Here, whatever blocking we can do is a statement of our disapproval of their attempts to bypass our consent and reduce the damage, not a surrender of our standing to demand they stop doing things that technical measures fundamentally can't stop.

@dalias @natty so you need to block every single user who uses this, and they definitely won't all report it

nice

at least the search engine projects are few and far between and have generally few accounts needed to block, but this is every user which is significantly worse

@SRAZKVT @dalias we have a flag for this https://docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/activitypub/#indexable but consent is not real I guess
ActivityPub - Mastodon documentation

A decentralized social networking protocol based upon the ActivityStreams 2.0 data format and JSON-LD.

@natty @SRAZKVT No, we do not have a flag for this. "Indexable" means I want people to be able to find my toots in search results. Not that I want to allow corporations to ingest them into their slop regurgitation machines and mimic my writing style but saying things I didn't and would never say and present those things as "summaries" of what I said.
@SRAZKVT @natty Or we just need to get seldo to ragequit fedi again after folks are "so mean to him" fediblocking his instance and IP blocking his bot from being used with accounts on their servers. Then he'll leave us alone and go do that shit just on birdchan 2.0.
@dalias I said what now?
@natty Sorry maybe I misread what you were saying about "blocking won't do anything". I'll edit not to sound accusatory.

@dalias

what a shithead

ah yes of course, wanting privacy and consent to be respected is "being a tedious bastard"

@Barmaid on est d'accord que la personne + son instance + ses alias et les alias de son mari sont/vont être bloqués ? 😬
@dalias blocked! classic techbro model of consent
@dalias shocking, the guy who sold out NPM is on board the slop train
@dalias that escalated very quickly.
tedious bastards who want to use social media to socialize with each other instead of minmaxing the Engagement

CC: @[email protected]

@khm @YvanDaSilva @dalias

🎯 exactly this. Everything about being human, filed under "tedium," and the only thing we can consider "not tedium" is Number Go Up.

@dalias I wish people would pin this to their profiles so I can easily avoid them when doing the vibe check when someone wants to follow me…
@dalias what app is that??
@faraiwe It's a web-based app at zeitgeist.blue. You're supposed to give the site access to your social media and slop-vendor accounts. 🤡
@dalias I'll give him access to my middle finger, the douchestack turdknuckle techbro
@dalias blocked and reported to my instance admin, thanks for the heads up!
@dalias Just block the whole alpaca gold domain, since he's the owner:
@drsbaitso @dalias way ahead of you, thanks for the heads up (found this from browsing the global feed)
@Lisabet8931 Search for his profile, click the three dots, bottom(ish) option should be "Block Domain" or similar.
@drsbaitso
How would that work?
>[you'd have to block] Me personally, and also anyone who uses the app. It's just a mastodon client, fetching the timeline. It looks like every other mastodon client.
@dalias
@dalias thanks for the heads up - just blocked the entire domain since that person is the instance owner and the instance has an AI generated banner image
@dalias oh hey it's that union buster