Mastodawn

@benroyce Why do we need the French to build wind farms or drill for oil? We can do all of the above, but we also have plenty of natural gas.

I assume there was something in the deal that says if the contract is cancelled they get compensated?

Contract never should have been signed on EITHER side. The French should have been aware that political winds change.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES 1d ago

mike we need off fossil fuels. it funds insane regimes and climate change

that it's french company or not is a red herring. they would do the same with an american company

they are locking you into a dependency you don't need. fossil fuels are a plutocrat scam. if you've been to the gas pump lately you might have noticed a price increase? because of their murderous nonsense in iran

there's no reason for any of that to be part of our lives

except the plutocrats want it to be

@benroyce We have domestic oil and gas in the USA. With fracking, more than we need. Ban exports. The drillers will gripe but they're making bank and will keep drilling.

Get the hell off imported oil, yes.

There is no good reason not to have solar covered parking and rooftops everywhere. Unlike wind, no huge structures required. We will still need combustion fuels, and the USA has plenty.

I am in CA so I know all about gas pumps.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES 1d ago

mike do you fucking know what climate change is?

you're worried about solar panels?!

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mike is not worried about solar panels, i blew my top. my bad

@benroyce Above I wrote > There is no good reason not to have solar

Which means there should be solar! We have solar parking at work, and those are always occupied first. If I had a place to charge it, I'd buy a used Tesla and keep my gas car as a spare.

Offshore wind OTOH requires a HELL of a lot of structure for a couple hundred MW.

Repeal the Jones act (which encourages imports) and restrict fossil fuel exports and build solar. I am worried about the USA looking like Cuba does right now.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES 1d ago

alright, sorry for going off on you

but we should be deploying wind/ solar/ etc like maniacs right now. stop funding putin. stop climate change. stop abusing people's wallets. etc

and we're not

there's no place for fossil fuels in consumer transportation anymore. no excuse. and that the usa can't do it, simply because we are under the plutocrats' thumbs, keeping us in the past to keep their unnecessary parasitical income, is a grand farce. we're all going to suffer for it

@benroyce > alright, sorry for going off on you

No problem, I did have a double-negative in there and if I had been hating on solar I would have had it coming.

> there's no place for fossil fuels in consumer transportation anymore

Airplanes are going to use combustion fuel for the foreseeable future. Ground transport, ten to twenty years transition time I suspect.

For electricity, LiFePo4 or sodium batteries will solve it over a similar time frame.

Until then, USA should be fuel independent

Grassroots Joe

I expect it'll take China less than 10 years to effectively eliminate ICE ground transport, maybe as little as 5, especially if The Criminal in the White House continues to boost fossil prices.

I also expect they'll electrify a substantial portion of their short haul air traffic within 10 years. Long haul will take longer, but maybe not much.

Look at the battery range and charging time strides they are making.

We could have done this too except for the #EpsteinClass.

@benroyce

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES 17h ago

@joeinwynnewood @mike805

china's rolling out sodium batteries while MAGA chuds are coping with their insecurities by buying gargantuan black pickup trucks that get 15 mpg

mike805 13h ago

@benroyce @joeinwynnewood I just wish I could buy a plug-in hybrid Accord. Or just an Accord with no cellular modem. No desire for a huge truck. I have access to a small one if I actually need to move something.

mike805 14h ago

@joeinwynnewood @benroyce It's going to take 20 years in the USA. I have a 2007 car which I got in 2016. Still works fine. I went car shopping in 2025. New Honda gets twice the mileage. I was close. But will it work in 10 or 20 years? It also had a tracking device I cannot fully disable. In the end I gave up and paid to maintain my 2007 Acura.

There were no good plug-in hybrid options and I have no place to charge daily. Lots of people in that position in the USA.

Grassroots Joe 10h ago

US car companies were already repeating the mistakes of the 70s before the orange maniac and his Congressional minions screwed us all over by rolling back subsidies. Now they're solidifying their dinosaur status.

@benroyce

mike805 9h ago

@joeinwynnewood @benroyce I'm sure the USA car companies have taken apart the BYD electric cars and concluded: "we might be able to make this for twice what they are selling it for."

So they just decided to make hay while the sun shines, and sell big emotionally appealing vehicles. That is the only thing they have ever done well. They cannot win on efficiency.

You cannot make something desirable if you do not like that thing. American car designers hate small cars.

Grassroots Joe 6h ago