Chaos Communication Congress 2024:

"Do not obey in advance"
https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-opening-ceremony#t=1347

#systemd: hold my beer.
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954
"as required by recent laws"

Merged 4 days ago.

If German communication infrastructure providers had obeyed in advance like that, privacy violating data retention would be a reality in Germany now.

#38c3 #ccc

38C3: Opening Ceremony

media.ccc.de

Next expected step is that when you setup a new user, you must get their birth date signed by some online service which checks your ID card (maybe with video-ID).

Because having a wrong birth date registered would be bad, right?

@ArneBab I like how it was immediately like "actually year is too inexact store the exact date" meanwhile even apple is only exposing a general range mechanism for like kids, teens, adults
@ArneBab Wasn't this Linux originally supposed to be a multi user operating system? Oh well, another reason to stay far away from modern toy Linux distributions and migrate to Devuan or one of the big BSDs…

@deBaer My understanding is that this is per-user.

And can only be set by the admin:

> birthDate is excluded from user_record_self_modifiable_fields(), so only
> administrators can set or change it via homectl

@deBaer aside: poettering who’s saying in the issue "it is fine" started working for Microsoft a few years ago.

Sadly that didn’t surprise me …

@ArneBab OK, thank you, now I know that userdb.service exists, but that doesn't make me feel any better. Everything that needs to be known about a user should either be in /etc/passwd, the user's home directory or, for all the enterprisey types, in a real LDAP server. This additional layer makes no sense.

@deBaer systemd is the Windowsing of Linux.

Just check whom Poettering works for now.

@ArneBab "What you're referring to as Linux, is, in fact, systemd/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, systemd plus Linux."
@ArneBab
Another bulletpoint against systemd.
*shrug*
@ArneBab systemd really, really doesn't want to be loved. Gotta respect that, at least.