@johnlorimer @CiaraNi It's impossible to effectively moderate such a huge server, so you have this catch-22 where the server is a vector for spam and harassment, but can be seen as "too big to block" because such a large percentage of the network lives there.
Overall it's bad for the health of the Fediverse, so some block it regardless and advocate for folks moving off and the server closing registrations.
@annika @johnlorimer I'll never find it welcoming to tell people who've just arrived, literally just joined Mastodon, that they're on the wrong server when it is not a server doing something actually despicable & egregious. I often see people going into the replies of Hello, Mastodon! introductions to give the newcomer unsolicited instructions to move server or questioning the way they are moving from Big Tech.
Edit to add: I know you didn't do this! You just answered an asked question (thanks)
@resl Ah, it was. Thank you. I found it.
'AI is the asbestos in the walls of our technological society, stuffed there with wild abandon by a finance sector and tech monopolists run amok. We will be excavating it for a generation or more."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jan/18/tech-ai-bubble-burst-reverse-centaur
(There are other sort of nerds than computer nerds.)
(I don't know if you are or are not, only you can be the judge. Just be aware that being a nerd correlates poorly with ability/willingness to install Linux.)
After Something Awful died I undocked from social, I was already kicked off of FB for pointing out so much toxicity (but also using it to track those Malhaur assholes which was awesome). That banning also took Insta of course and then pre musk Twitter banned me for trolling conservatives during trump1. I'm even banned from Reddit because, before they sold all of their users content to train LLMs, I used a cool little script to replace everything I'd posted over like five years with identical, pointless text! They didn't appreciate the gesture apparently
At some point after that I tried masto and stayed here. It has none of the toxicity (well kind of none, looking at you Babka) and at least some of the old SA community feel.
I'd invite pretty much any of you out for coffee, beer or to shoot arrows at targets, that's not true for those other sites.
Gen X Australian here, this thread and your post in particular resonated with me.
Arrived in Jan 2023 and encountered the "You're On The Big Bad Server" anti-welcome committee.
I get the arguments but it seemed to me there are better ways of mitigating than *checks notes* insulting new arrivals for choosing the default server.
It was enough to drive most fellow refugees to Bsky, but I dug my heels in instead. 🤷♂️
PS Am on Bsky too, but mostly here.
@imalcolm The 'anti-welcome committee' - that is what it feels like. They could just ignore and scroll by, but apparently feel the need to stand on the new neighbour's doorstep telling them to move. Am sorry you had that experience. Am glad you stayed.
@CiaraNi @imalcolm @johnlorimer @annika
Fully agree that we should celebrate folk for trying out Mastodon, and avoid shaming or complicating things re: "oh no you picked bad instance"
I also agree with the many issues and problems with mastodon . social
I try to do a little "actually-welcoming committee" by having # introduction + # newhere as part of my 'advanced interface / deck / homepage', that does not include instance judgement.
They could, but zealotry makes some possibly well-meaning people behave like jerks, I guess!
And thanks so much for that - I'm glad I stayed as well, it feels like I have found more of "my people" here over time, and the conversations and connections I have here tend to be more genuine, for want of a better word. 😊
@imalcolm 'the conversations and connections I have here tend to be more genuine, for want of a better word' - that reflects my experience here too
@CiaraNi @johnlorimer yeah it's kind of a dick move and not very welcoming, as you said. Unfortunate that the server's so big, they often get lost in the noise.
(I disagree about the "despicable and egregious" bit but we don't need to get into it.)