Casey Liss4d ago

Just curious. If you're a Callsheet user, would be interested to see your vote below.

For the purposes of this poll, the spoken language I'm most interested in is the one you use in the home. Even if you speak English at work, I'm focused on the one primarily used at home.

I speak English; phone is in English
65.3%
English is not primarily spoken; phone is English
16.8%
English is not primary; phone is not English
11.6%
I still need to start using Callsheet
6.3%
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Show threadCasey Liss4d ago
This has *nothing at all* to do with me wondering if all the effort I put into localization is even worth it. 😮‍💨
Show threadAndrew Wade4d ago
@caseyliss Data point: Afrikaans is a language spoken by Millions in South Africa. As is Xhosa and Zulu. Android have supported them for years? Apple? Nope. But they do support some “old” languages spoken by a few thousand.
So even Apple doesn’t get localisation right.
Show threadLeon Cowle4d ago

@andrewwade (dropped Casey). You make 2 points. That Afrikaans, Xhosa, and Zulu aren't supported is very logical — they are wwwaaaayyyyy too far down the list if you were to order world languages in order of localization importance. which correlates to how many speak it as their first language. With many dozens of other languages ahead of them that are more important (i.e. more widely spoken) to get to first.

But even more importantly, that for Apple specifically, those 3 languages can be moved even (much) further down the priority list given the iOS/Android split in South Africa (80%+ Android).

The other point about "old" languages is separate and has its own reasons, which one can definitely have opinions on, but it doesn't really affect the prioritization considerations above.

(And to head off any drive-by replies accusing me of being a typical ignorant American, I grew up speaking Afrikaans in South Africa, so I feel I have a right to opinions about it.)

Show threadAndrew Wade3d ago
@leoncowle Yes Leon. Waar. Maar daar is aanhoudend vir ons gesê ons koop nie hulle goed nie. Onthou net daar is 0 (nul) Apple Stores in die hele Afrika. Net resellers met treurige "customer sat" en hoër pryse. Geen taal ondersteuning nie. Ou Maps.
Maar ook dis ons skuld dat hulle min markaandeel het 😉 🤷‍♂️
Show threadLeon Cowle3d ago
@andrewwade Ek dink dis hoofsaaklik die hoër pryse. Apple het net nog nooit in die “value” mark gekompeteer nie (nie eintlik eers met die 16e/17e nie, maar die nuwe MacBook Neo is dalk nou ‘n ware intrapslag!). En die “value” mark is by verre die grootste mark in SA (en die hele Afrika). Dis bloot ekonomiese realiteit. En dan kry hulle dus nie markaandeel nie, en dan fokus hulle dus nie baie op daai mark nie.
Show threadAndrew Wade
@leoncowle 100s. Maar ek sien baie duur Android fone hier. Ek verstaan dis nie Apple se primêre mark nie. Street View is hier sedert 2010(?). Apple kan effens op Afrika fokus as hulle wil. Duidelik wil hulle nie.
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