someone has a sense of humor here
here in the main hall, they have on royalty-free techno music. the music is being played on a mac (non-free software), in the brave browser (free-ish software). in the dock there are several icons for microsoft and other non-free software.
i am just pointing this out because, you know, it's FOSDEM, the free and open source developers' european meeting.
last year the computer they used for this was running KDE 🙃
they have swapped out for another machine running KDE (free software). it is showing a slideshow authored in Google Slides (non-free software), and the browser appeared to be Firefox (free software).
RichiH has a strong message to kick this one off, definitely saying what everyone is feeling
@ariadne 💯 this. I started to follow you for your technical skills, continue to follow you for ideas :)

@evaristegal0is @ariadne

Same here. Discovered because of association with a project and stayed because you're your authentic self and a good person to have around and interact with.*
:)

* and that is not because you'd agree with everything but because you actually engage in honesty and also push back against things that are stupid on 2nd thought.

@agowa338 @evaristegal0is heh, i feel a little bad about how strongly i pushed back on the Alpine WSL work (which I believe was our first interaction).

on the other hand, I still do think that big tech embracing alpine has been a mixed bag for the project.

@ariadne @evaristegal0is

Well I can't say that you were wrong though. With moving towards WSL2 microsoft basically did exactly go into the direction you said they would.

I'm considering taking the app down by now. They allow to import archives without the need for the wrapper now and all versions that don't have that feature are now probably also out of support (need to check first though).

@agowa338 @evaristegal0is to be honest I never really understood why they didn't just use OCI images for it

@ariadne @evaristegal0is

Well that would imply that they didn't constantly try to reinvent the wheel in a shittier and incomplete way.

Like did you know there are literally fields for linux filesystem permissions within the NTFS filesystem? Or that Windows has special well known entries for its ACLs to represent the Owner, owning Group, and others that they use for their NFS server?
And now guess wich one they used for WSL1. Right neither. They invented a new way...

@ariadne @evaristegal0is

But on the other hand it is kinda understandable that their devs loose track of what is all in windows when you forget to reverse link your documentation.

Like try to look up how they implemented anything. e.g. say you'd be interested in reimplementing NTFS or ReFS. You'd think you go to the "NTFS" documentation and have everything you need. Well - no.

You've to go through all of the documentation an see if there is a section that mentions modifying it...

@ariadne If we lose it fascism then yes, if we get socialism instead then no.
@nyovaya do you aspire to a socialism that isn't democratic??
@esoterra Do you want to debate on the term democracy? I despise a capitalist system where the majority gets to reign over the minority, which is commonly known as democracy. I strive for a system where the people take what they need and give what they can.

RE: https://mastodon.social/@jlou/115924397884018118

@nyovaya @esoterra That’s why liberal democracy is important and illiberal democracy is disastrous, so that the minority can have rights that protect them.

Democracy is on the opposite side from capitalism. Capitalism involves violation of inalienable rights to workplace democracy.

Also, there is proportional representation where minorities are at least represented in delegates.

@nyovaya I don't care to debate the definitions of terms or to defend the thinly veiled oligarchy that that we call "democracy". I just think we need to be clear that our goals are truly democratic participatory systems, and that every time we give people power over us the incentives that emerge always lead to oppression and cruelty, even if they call themselves socialists. Have a nice day!
@nyovaya @ariadne Can't tell if you're a homegrown tankie or a plant, but historically socialist authoritarians have been much stronger on the "authoritarian" side.
@neia @ariadne What do you mean by plant? Im not a tanky.
@ariadne
but there is no democracy, nowhere
@ariadne Could you please add to the alt text that that this is a photo from fosdem and that the text you mentioned is on a large slide behind a man speaking at a podium? This is helpful context.
@ariadne This is one of those moments where I think "I should have..."
I work my ass off to fight off proprietary software and big tech, actually succeeding, and I didn't go.
@ariadne
I loved how the ebpf guy did a talk basically saying that funding was dependent on the corporations that you could get to support you and the first question from the audience completely exposed their entire business model.
@dieter @ariadne the software freedom movement should acknowledge that developer freedom in the workplace is as important as protecting user freedom and embrace Copyfarleft licenses that prevent capitalist orgs from using the software.
@ariadne #OpenSource is resistance to whatever form of government you may live under (70% of the world’s population do not live in democracies). Open source is anarchy. Open source is community. Open source is caring. ☮️

@ariadne While strong, I do not consider this true. Like @eobet writes below, open source is community, and in non-democracies, communities and personal contact are most important.

On the contrary, closed source might be irrelevant in non-democracies.

@zverik @eobet its a valid point, and indeed yesterday a friend pointed out that FOSS is growing quickly in China

@ariadne @zverik @eobet I mean… GPL-violating devices gonna violate, everywhere, and the Linux Foundation becomes indistinguishable from… say… Oracle?

Free Software contiues to completely win and lose at the same time.

It’s a multidimensional paradox and always has been. Just keep fighting the right fights.

@dexter @zverik @eobet personally I think GPL enforcement is kind of a waste of time in most cases because you wind up chasing shell companies on shell companies which have already been dissolved after the product release 🙃
@ariadne @zverik @eobet It’s gotta have teeth, but this is about democracy and open source.

@ariadne @zverik @eobet Exactly, and not just growing quickly - open source projects are co-opted and leveraged by the Chinese state, and Chinese companies complicit in genocide and crushing democracy are being welcomed into open-source projects with few consequences.

All of this is an opportunity to consider how open source can have more political teeth in supporting democracy, as right now it feels very separate, and inadequate