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Deus Ex MacGuffin 
And Joss Whedon wrote Alien Resurrection
Michael Gemar@geekysteven YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!
contrasocialNah, I rewatch that shit annually.
Blake C. Stacey@geekysteven I found the episode quality really irregular back when I first watched the show in 2005.
Neville Park@geekysteven even at the time people were critiquing the whole "Lost Cause" Civil War-analogy undertones and the sprinkled-on Chineseness-without-actually-hiring-Chinese-actors!
@nev @geekysteven And those problems were so, so avoidable. Hire Chinese actors! Make the war an attempted rebellion *against a slave society*! Canonically, they even have something like ancient Roman debt slavery going on. A free man who volunteered to fight for the cause of space!Spartacus is vastly more compelling than the nebulous backstory of "independence" that the Lost Cause imagery just drowns out.
@bstacey @geekysteven even at the time one could have pulled off one (1) Chinese secondary character, like a crew member
jonathankorenā¢@nev @geekysteven keep the āAsia without Asiansā to cyberpunk, not space westerns please.
@jonathankoren @geekysteven don't even keep it in cyberpunk!
AN/CRM-114@geekysteven ngl when I found out that Whedon talks in real life the same way he writes all his characters I couldnāt enjoy it anymore
La Dame d'Azur@geekysteven Never got the appeal. I guess I just don't understand millennials.
Morpheus Being@geekysteven Nah, it's much better!
Ian MalcolmAgreed. Just finished a rewatch with my kids; it's clunky in places but then it always was, and I loved it still. (As did my now-teens.) š¤·āāļø
alsvha@geekysteven I very much like the show. It's one of the series I've rewatched most over the years. It captured me when it aired in Denmark and have stuck since.
Now an interesting thought experiment however, is if it could have kept its following if it was an actual non-butchered show that had been allowed to run seasons. Or if much of its quality comes from being so short lived that we never saw much of anything come to fruition. Serenity movie tried and while I really like that one it still felt too disconnected from the show.
Renee Remains the Same@alsvha @geekysteven I still love it. I rewatch it, on average, once a year. I do wonder if it would have become what it did if it had more seasons though. I think part of its charm is definitely that it went out on high note and left everyone wishing for more.
@reneeremains @alsvha I think a lot of the appeal is that there's a lot of unrealized potential. It's very easy to see how it could have been an all-timer. Sort of like how you watch Voyager and see all the ways they could have written it better
sidereal@geekysteven The Captain is such an incel!
StarkRG@geekysteven I've rewatched it fairly recently, so I disagree. It's got its problems, for sure (in particular the complete lack of Asian people despite the world building background involving Chinese settlers), but it was, overall, quite good. That said, I do think that it was probably a good idea that it was cancelled when it was, given what the creators said they had planned for Inara (she had a deadly illness and would have gone out infecting reavers who raped her).
Drew šµš ā¾ļø@geekysteven No, it's actually better.
badtuple@geekysteven yeah probably, but I like enjoying things and encourage others to enjoy things they like.
Noxy š¾š³ļøāš@geekysteven bullshit, firefly is BETTER than I remember!
Matt Godden@geekysteven āEnterprise had a better theme songā.
obscurestar@metaning @geekysteven Now that's just mean.
@obscurestar @geekysteven Oh ye of little faith, of the heart.
Field Replaceable Unit@geekysteven I don't remember it as being all that good. I remember thinking it had a lot of potential that it didn't live-up to.
Sancrasini@geekysteven I had just come to terms with everything else and now this... its probably true like every show and movie one liked in the easier times but have to look up still
Guillotine Jones, FlĆ¢neur@geekysteven
I don't know about others, geekysteven, but the "Firefly" that I remember was pretty darn good.
I don't know about others, geekysteven, but the "Firefly" that I remember was pretty darn good.
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Who keeps the stats for the Fediverse?
Were there as many posts on Mastodon today about "Firefly" as there were about Linux?
#Firefly #Linux #Mastodon
Who keeps the stats for the Fediverse?
Were there as many posts on Mastodon today about "Firefly" as there were about Linux?
#Firefly #Linux #Mastodon
@geekysteven Personally I hated Firefly. It had way too much 'South Will Rise Again' coded stuff. Also a lot of it was cringe. Maybe not as cringe as Epstein err.. Neelix on Voyager but some of it was pretty cringe.
kundu š±š»š§@geekysteven right, but stargate is!
@kundu doing a rewatch of SG1 right now
Bujold@geekysteven @kundu I've been slowly rewatching the entire series over the past couple years, and it's certainly Of Its Time, but imho its biggest sin is that it would be so much better with a less antiquated/static view of historical cultures (These people are descended from ancient Celts? Cool! What have they been up to in the last 3000 years? Nothing? They stayed exactly the same? Huh.) and with a willingness to explore the inherent genderqueerness of the Tokra's way of life
@bujold @geekysteven yes, you have to fall for the trick to enjoy it. That kind of pattern was also funny at the same time.
But is very true, nowadays if they do something else on the franchise, it would have to be very different to fit the modern times.
But is very true, nowadays if they do something else on the franchise, it would have to be very different to fit the modern times.
muddle@geekysteven Shiny!
Sharp Leaves@geekysteven I'm willing to be convinced, but if the complaint is changed expectations around political coding in media, haters can eat one.
I'm all for rejecting awful messages, but evaluating art solely on how exactly and loudly it conforms to your expectations is anti-thought and anti-art.
ghostdancer@geekysteven I liked a lot Firefly and the movie and think it was a good and really entertaining show but still think that the cult status is in great part cause it was cancelled. It's not that good and probably would have gone to shit if it continued at the time.
Jules she/her@geekysteven I mean I could have done without the whole future Asia with no Asians, the whole River as a manic pixie dream killing machine bit, the simultaneously fetishisation and whorephobia about Inara and the frankly horrible bit where the Operative is threatening to rape Kaylee...
...okay but other than that it's really good, right. *harrumph*
ticho@geekysteven Lowly ragebait, bro, lowly ragebait.
Like what you like, let others like what they like.
Ana I. 
@geekysteven noooo . it is great. Jejejejr
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ā¦ š Gus Posey@geekysteven Please call emergency services immediately.
Kierkethumbs up convincingly@geekysteven i started watching it a couple of years ago. I lasted four or five episodes before i accepted i had been tricked by other peopleās nostalgia
malabruja@geekysteven Shut up! š
Benjamin D. Hutchins@geekysteven To be fair, Jesus IS kind of being a dick about it.
@zgryphon that's true of much of the gospels
Fredrik Graver@geekysteven @aslakr Sacrilege.
Donāt listen to him; heās a false prophet.
Kevin Boyd (he/him) šØš¦@geekysteven @Taffer I have specifically not rewatched it for fear of this. My Serenity disc might still be sealed in its case (I saw it on opening day in theatres, which was super fun)
ZiggyZapf@geekysteven I got onboard a few years after it got canceled thanks to a net friend sending me some DVDs.
I still think it's overall good, but not the absolute masterpiece some people make it out to be. What gets me is what it could have been if allowed to continue, which is a forlorn hope that likely fueled the nostalgia.
Important thing for the revival: Temper your expectations, browncoats. It could be a massive failure, a masterpiece, or anything in between.
Almad@geekysteven I REWATCHED IN AND IT WAS FINE
Erik Ableson@geekysteven @GeePawHill True, but it had a few great moments
Matt HallNah, s'a'ight. I find it delightfully quotable.
_Good_? I dunno. I dunno if it was _good_ but it was a nice breath of fresh air, at the time.
I _do not_ need a revival or whatever they're doing. It's completely OK to let it go.
Besides with Ron Glass gone the only character I _really_ wanted to know more about is lost.
Bill Hooker@geekysteven I can't rewatch it on account of Whedon being a creep, so the point is moot for me.
Ludwig Vielfrass@geekysteven I still re-watch it from time to time. I still like it a lot, but I'm equally willing to leave it in its time. Trying to resurrect it now seems...irrelevant. I'm at least happy the cast has the rights and Whedon won't have anything to do with it.
Adam Baldwin can fuck right off, though.
MacBalance@geekysteven I enjoyed Firefly and like most of the lead actors. I feel like The Expanse kind of moved past it.
Iāll give the animated version a try, but my expectations arenāt super high.
Jens FinkhƤuser@geekysteven As much as I like Firefly, I'm also convinced it stays so strong in memory is because it got cancelled early. We get to remember all of what it might have become, and none of the actual character and plot development that screenwriters settled on.
@jens we get to skip the arc where Kaylee becomes a venture capitalist