Mastodawn

Hi @MonaApp - love your work :)

I was wondering if you have looked into an option where #AltText, or perhaps the first two or three lines of it, just always appears like a caption below images that have it, instead of the indicator icon?

Two reasons:
1. Sometimes the alt text indicator icon obscures a detail of the image I’d like to see.
2. Some alt text descriptions are actually just sheer poetry or otherwise interesting enough in their own right that I’d like to read them even if I have full visibility of the actual image. Showing the first few words (and some indicator of alt text length?) always would give me some odds of being able to tell when this is the case.

Thanks again for such a great app :)

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Jupiter Rowland 1d ago

@Mark Whybird The whole alt-text would be a bad idea. Especially if showing the whole alt-text under each image is set to on by default or even hard-coded for everyone's "convenience".

Some of us write or have written extremely long alt-texts. All of my most recent alt-texts are either precisely 1,500 characters or only a very few characters short of it. I'll have to limit my future alt-texts to only 512 characters, but I won't shorten my existing ones. And in the rare case that someone decided to boost one of my image posts to your timeline, you'd have a massive block of 1,500 characters of alt-text underneath each image. On a comparatively small iPhone display even (desktop user here).

Do you really want that?

By the way: How does @Mona app handle images in posts with CWs? Does it hide them behind the CW like Mastodon's Web interface since 4.4.0? Or does it keep them visible underneath the CW'd post like Mastodon's Web interface before 4.4.0? Because in the latter case, I couldn't possibly CW long alt-texts away (while I already CW my long posts away whenever I can, namely whenever they aren't replies).

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Mark Whybird

@jupiter_rowland Long ones is exactly why I suggested showing the first two or three lines and some kind of length indicator (and I would be looking for the longer ones 🙂).

Mona blurs CW’d images until you click/tap on them.

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Mark Whybird 1d ago

@jupiter_rowland Also: Mona is very, very configurable - the Mona way of doing this would make it an option, rather than everyone or no-one. It’s just not an option they offer *yet*, AFAIK.

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Jupiter Rowland 1d ago

@Mark Whybird Sounds like @Mona app basically behaves like the Mastodon pre-4.4 Web interface; in fact, I think I've read somewhere that it's still partly stuck on a Mastodon 3 level.

One issue with this is that the Mastodon pre-4.4 Web interface didn't automatically blur images in posts that have CWs. Instead, when you have images in a CW'd post, Mastodon flags the images sensitive. Mastodon's Web interface blurs images that are flagged sensitive, and I guess so does Mona.

However, most of the rest of the Fediverse doesn't support this Mastodon-specific, non-standard sensitive flag for images. In CW'd image posts from somewhere else than Mastodon, the images will generally not be flagged sensitive, Mastodon won't blur them, and Mona probably won't either.

For example, here on Hubzilla, I could make people click up to four times before they see an image. First, if they have NSFW installed, they have to click an automatically generated content warning. Next, they have to click a summary plus Mastodon-style content warning. Then they have to click a spoiler tag that reveals the blanked-out image. Lastly, they have to click the image to unblank it.

Mastodon/Mona users, on the other hand, will see the very same image below the very same post immediately, un-CW'd, unblurred.

This is why I won't go back to posting images here on Hubzilla and stick to (streams) for that: (streams) can set the Mastodon-specific sensitive flag by adding one or two particular hashtags to a post. At least I hope it still does that.

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