Molly Whitewith great sadness i had to retire my trusty Ergodox Infinity, but: new keeb! expect typos as i learn how to type again
(MoErgo Glove80)
the Ergodox was also ortholinear with thumb clusters so the transition shouldn't be too difficult, but the default layout on this one is a little different (thumb shift and modifier keys mostly)
EndlessMason@molly0xfff
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datarama@molly0xfff I was considering getting one of those until I eventually settled on the Keyboardio Model 100 I currently use.
Took a while to get used to it! I came from a boring old staggered QWERTY CA66.
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Pete Johanson@molly0xfff thumb shift is really nice, IMHO. Not as much of a requirement when you've got as many keys as the Glove80, but still a win.
Hope you enjoy the new keeb!
Gavin Bmy fingers are quite confused merely looking at that. But then my greatest curse is that I have muscle memory of a half dozen keyboards, but none of said memory quite works right.
mmalc@Ghostflaneur
FWIW, I found that it's fairly easy to transition from flat keyboard to a sculpted one like this (in my case https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/) provided that the key layout is the same (QWERTY). The true vertical alignment of the keys actually makes it easier.
(As ever, YMMV.)
FWIW, I found that it's fairly easy to transition from flat keyboard to a sculpted one like this (in my case https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/) provided that the key layout is the same (QWERTY). The true vertical alignment of the keys actually makes it easier.
(As ever, YMMV.)
Kevin Rothrock
š³ļøāā§ļøPepperTheVixenš¦Æ@molly0xfff Split ortholinear boards, my beloved!
Patrick H. Lauke
prex@molly0xfff how :D
Zane Selvans@molly0xfff Whoa, it actually looks like hands.
Simon newslttrs.com@molly0xfff looks like a skate park for your fingertips!
Daniel@molly0xfff Molly Keyboardhands is gonna be typing up a storm. I don't think I could handle that kind of power.
delicta 
@molly0xfff it's the most comfortable keyboard that I have ever used period)
I also use Sunaku's keymap https://github.com/sunaku/glove80-keymaps
It's pretty comfortable to have homerow mods
I also use Sunaku's keymap https://github.com/sunaku/glove80-keymaps
It's pretty comfortable to have homerow mods
@delicta whoaaa thank you!
@delicta wound up flashing TailorKey (which I think is based on Sunaku's) and you are so right about the homerow mods!
@molly0xfff nice, glad you like it! Also can recommend to play with tilt of glove80, I found that max tilt of keyboard drastically improved my RSI 
Ethan Marcotte@molly0xfff i aināt know thing one about ergnonomic keyboards, but GOSH i think this is such a cool-looking design
Matthew Abbott@beep @molly0xfff I can personally attest it feels amazing too! And reasonably priced relative to its competitors.
Third spruce tree on the left@molly0xfff super cool - so question (since the 80 doesn't have the 60's integrated trackpads), do you put a trackball in between them or put a mouse outside of em?
@tezoatlipoca mouse outside. i haven't experimented much with trackballs
katherine@molly0xfff wow! whereā¦ is the space bar? is there one?
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I feel like many users end up building their own layout, so space can be wherever you like! :3 it can even be a chord or you could go full steno with plover
I feel like many users end up building their own layout, so space can be wherever you like! :3 it can even be a chord or you could go full steno with plover
AmgineRight thumb pad, lower row, far right.
ferricoxide@molly0xfff
Many, many moons ago (when I still had a desktop computer at home), I had an ergo keyboard. My wife would use it (she had her own login) when I was traveling (which, at the time, was "all the time").
At the time, she had a significant Diet Coke habit. She pretty much never didn't have a can with her. One day, while working at my computer, she knocked her can of soda over ā¦and into the keyboard. Things did not end well for the keyboard. Ultimately, it needed to be replaced (and she was banned from using that computer).
I've been working pretty much exclusively from laptops the past fifteen-plus years. I sorely miss having an ergo keyboard. My wrists sorely miss me having an ergo keyboard. Sadly, I no longer have a place to set one up.
Side-benefit of ergo keyboards: if you're working in a hot-desking environment, it's a great way to ensure that no one "borrows" your work-area.
Many, many moons ago (when I still had a desktop computer at home), I had an ergo keyboard. My wife would use it (she had her own login) when I was traveling (which, at the time, was "all the time").
At the time, she had a significant Diet Coke habit. She pretty much never didn't have a can with her. One day, while working at my computer, she knocked her can of soda over ā¦and into the keyboard. Things did not end well for the keyboard. Ultimately, it needed to be replaced (and she was banned from using that computer).
I've been working pretty much exclusively from laptops the past fifteen-plus years. I sorely miss having an ergo keyboard. My wrists sorely miss me having an ergo keyboard. Sadly, I no longer have a place to set one up.
Side-benefit of ergo keyboards: if you're working in a hot-desking environment, it's a great way to ensure that no one "borrows" your work-area.
Solarpunk Davy@molly0xfff so, these look very pretty, I've used Microsoft ergonomic keyboard for many years now.
How does one know which style of these fancy keyboards would fit? How did you know you would like this concave shape instead of a regular tenting approach?
@SolarDavy if you're lucky you have friends who are into ergo keyboards who will lend you one to test drive. in this case i already knew i loved the ergodox and so wasn't concerned about the ortho layout or thumb clusters, and i was willing to take a chance on the concave keywells
@molly0xfff I should find friends with fancy keyboards... Good tip šš¼
And have fun typing!
Neo Ehproque@molly0xfff waitā¦ is your pinky usually on "o" or on "p"? Am I typing wrong?
Ian Volante@molly0xfff Would love to try something like that, although I'm a fraudulent touch-typer, so it might be a painful transition. Also, I use a RollerMouse, and that's unlikely to play nicely with this sort of thing.
groxx@SometimeHippy @molly0xfff TIL RollerMouse. I kinda like that idea.
For my kinesis advantage2, I've got an apple magic trackpad taped in the middle (there's just enough room for it, and foam tape had held for several years now). Works pretty well though it still irritates my RSI a bit.
@SometimeHippy @molly0xfff out of curiosity, because videos and descriptions aren't being clear about it: does the bar on this one spring back, or stay where you slide it like the other models seem to do? and what does that imply for horizontal movement?
like is there a carriage return button so you can recenter without moving, or do you perhaps need to install drivers for absolute positioning? or if it springs back, do you have to swipe a couple times to move across the screen sometimes?
@groxx @molly0xfff It's a cylinder within the casing, so the rotation of the cylinder gives you the up/down movement. Left/right is done by the equivalent movement of the cylinder within. It doesn't spring back, but there is a button at end within the housing which sends the pointer out to the extreme in if you run out of movement. (I think! It's been ages since it became intuitive, and I don't have it in front of me right now). I've got a fast cursor, so don't usually hit the ends.
@molly0xfff VERY swank!
I love my #ZSA #Moonlander #keyboard!
I still find myself occasionally wondering where a particular obscure key went (Where the heck IS PrntScrn anyway?) but that's a tiny price to pay for the overall huge productivity boost!
dan@molly0xfff super interested in hearing how it goes. Iāve been eyeing this and their Go60
PunnO)))@molly0xfff Oh, that's nice.
Still rocking an Ergodox after 10+ years. Trackball in the middle is The Way.
Greg@molly0xfff oh thatās gorgeous
Aether_WellI'm ready for wireless customizable typing gloves to pair with display glasses or maybe a display hat. Its a shame we don't have those yet.
saiarcot895@molly0xfff I've seen the Glove80 recently online, and I don't think I'd like choc switches (I like some travel and height for my keys). I'm currently using the Moonlander, but am eyeing the Charybdis.
Jon@molly0xfff people really really love their glove 80s. Hope you enjoy the feel and the soft easy keyswitches and that your hands and brain love you for it.
Flipper š¬š³ļøāš@molly0xfff I made so many typos with this thing until my hands relearned where everything was:
Pierre-Luc GagnĆ©@molly0xfff out there typing like sheās driving a Battle Mech.
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turmoni@molly0xfff I recently discovered the community firmware that gives you per-key RGB control and this is incredibly useful for my gaming layer that shifts a bunch of keys over by one so WASD is usable. I no longer have to think "wait is this one of the keys that I moved or is it normal?"
Wookiee Parker 
@molly0xfff Iām currently wondering if my ergo keyboard was a good idea. It is also ortholinear and while I have adjusted well to it, Iām now lost on a regular keyboard. Using my laptop as a laptop is now an exercise in frustration.
@wookieeboy oddly enough I seem to have two brain slots for "desk keyboard" and "laptop keyboard". going between my Ergodox and my laptop was no problem but when I had to briefly use a standard layout external keyboard at my desk it was very weird
seth@molly0xfff Ooh, I just got a Glove80 earlier this year! I moved from a 3D-printed hand-soldered one to this and missed my favorite mod: holding both layer keys to trigger āHyperā (control-option-shift-command) for a bunch of custom shortcuts.
If thatās helpful for you, Iāll share the repo where I implemented it. You can use it with any layout and Iāll eventually get around to fixing up a PR to go upstream for ZMK itself.
@seth super handy! iāve been using a layout based on TailorKey, which also has a hyper key shortcut (though triggered with different keys: https://sites.google.com/view/tailorkey/moergo/glove80/hotkey-glove80?authuser=0)
@molly0xfff Oh that looks handy, too. The custom keeb community is so great!
Hereās my fork of MoErgo ZMK fork, with the mod https://github.com/sethvoltz/zmk-moergo/pull/1
And hereās it in use for my keymap https://github.com/sethvoltz/glove80-zmk-config/pull/1
