Can't wait to use and promote illegal operating systems that do not verify age.

@catsalad

we need to focus hard on building serious open hardware capacities, because if ppl will opt out of proprietary operating systems which verify age, they will move age verification into hardware, so we need to avoid proprietary hardware too. ...better to start immediately supporting that and sharing options, because its not a questiin IF, but only WHEN they will do that.

@serapath @catsalad One day you'll probably will have to present your ID to buy hardware, binding the machine id to it, as for sim cards already. Buy new hardware now, not only because of Hormus, Taiwan and BigTech stressing memory prices, but because we all will have to wait several years for the autocratic regimes to grind each other up to the point where they crumble from their own ignorance.

@Amorpheus @catsalad

yeah, if we just wait, that day you describe will surely come.

Soms wait for times to change, others seizes it forcefully and act, because the best way to predict the future is to create it.

If we dont built the alternative and look for others who do to team up and support them to grow a strong alternative network that produces the future we want - we will for sure NOT get the future we want.

protesting might block studf temporarily, but not produce a better alternative

@serapath @catsalad I agree with you that the future will be what we decide it to be.

But FOSS is one thing. Chip and PCB design and production is another league, that we as a free and independent intellectual community cannot achieve that easily.

We can only create a market niche by supporting it where we can, hoping that some company will follow our call. But even then those companies will have to comply with national regulations.

@Amorpheus @serapath @catsalad
Whatโ€ฝ Someone tell @tubetime! (See also https://monster6502.com/) ๐Ÿ™‚
MOnSter 6502

@GerardThornley @Amorpheus @serapath @catsalad for actually useful desktop computing, it still comes down to getting wafers fabbed. not too many advanced fabs around the world these days. Taiwan, South Korea, US, france, probably a few others.

@tubetime @GerardThornley @Amorpheus @catsalad

nobody said it was easy.
the first published linux version 0.01 was published in 1991.
Would anyone believe where this could go decades later? no!

did anyone imagine open source 3D printers and a network of private ppl offering 3d printing services would ever be a thing?

etsy even offers 3d printing services.

It just needs a start.

There are projects like the https://mntre.com/ and a lot of open tech exists to further grow an ecosystem

MNT Research GmbH

MNT Research makes open source hardware laptops, mobile devices and keyboards that are modular and repairable. Designed and assembled in Berlin, EU.

Thereโ€™s a Class 100 semiconductor cleanroom inside this backyard shed.

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@tubetime @Amorpheus @serapath @catsalad ๐Ÿ™‚ yeah, I was kidding! I know we aren't going to knock up a PCB-based, GHz-speed, super-scalar, super-pipelined CPU in our sheds. (And the power consumption of you could! ๐Ÿ”ฅ)

Now that I am thinking about it, though, I wonder what actually would be achievable for an enthusiastic amateur with means? For instance, would it be plausible for them to make an actual 6502 chip? At what point in the history of silicon manufacturing did cost and complexity make it utterly unachievable outside of the existing players in the industry?

@GerardThornley @tubetime @Amorpheus @catsalad

i do think in a fediverse world and beyond that peer to peer world, where people leave big tech and embrace self custody, may it be through self hosting (if ppl got the skills) or through embracing peer to peer apps where their identity is represented by a "seed phrase" that represents thei cryptographic keypair, which they write down and store away safely.

...hardware you can trust in is vital, even if it is slow, so ppl will buy open hardware๐Ÿ™‚

@GerardThornley @tubetime @serapath @catsalad ARM is a good example. They just design circuitry, they do not fabricate it. Design is in the grasp of small expert groups and even individuals, but fabrication is only possible if you accumulate enough financial support.

Make your design and propose it. If you get enough supporters, let dedicated fabs produce it.

@Amorpheus @catsalad

national regulations

you mean regulatjons made by the epstein class?

its hard to regulate an open source bazaar where private ppl offer their printing services.

what are you exactly afraid of?
why wouldnt platforms like etsy or more open alternatives exist in the future?

@serapath @catsalad If 3D printers were already able to produce on sub-nm scale, I'd agree with joy, enthusiasm, dedication and participation... ๐Ÿ™‚