I think I need more coffee.
with ping -A,
so I think the problem may be with ping

me: "so with ping-tack-capital-A I get much more consistent results"

the person across the table: "wtf my wifi just went down"

I -think- it was coincidence that the venue wifi went down immediately after
@munin what's -A mean on your system? i dont have a terminal handy.
@munin That shouldn't be happening.

@patcharcana

yeah I am....contemplating how to even begin to figure out how that happens.