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It's FOSSA surprise collab just happened.
el_haych2024@itsfoss not a surprise really. Apple and Graphene OS would be the motherlode of surprises
Doerk@el_haych2024 @itsfoss I’m not totally convinced that this is the right decision. Motorola devices are neither cheap nor do they have outstanding quality. And I’m also not sure whether they’re at the same level as a Pixel when it comes to security.
But probably the best move considering that Google does their best to hinder custom ROMs. Unfortunately there is no pressure on Google to be more open. How was their slogan once upon a time? Don’t be evil…?
@NebulaTide @itsfoss I pefer the quote "you die young enough to be a hero or live long enough to become the villain."
paet 🇪🇺@NebulaTide @el_haych2024 @itsfoss
Ja, vor einiger Zeit "Don’t be evil…?".
Aber zu der Zeit auch schon nur ein Slogan ohne echte Werte dahinter.
Vielleicht als Wunschgedanke in den Anfängen bei Google...
Malka Beth@itsfoss I'm waiting overall until they share what this device will actually be. If it's just another touchscreen only device, with fingerprint & face scanners, that needs a case to avoid it breaking before I've even charged it the first time, then I'm continuing to avoid #graphene in favor of systems like #lineage & #postmarket that offer decent diversity of device compatibility.
slamrI have a Fairphone and the biggest gripe I have with it is Android. I still can't believe Fairphone haven't read the room and provided and alternative privacy based option out of the box without having to flash firmware and risk bricking your phone. this is interesting
John Carlsen 🇺🇸🇳🇱🇪🇺I use a Fairphone 4.
The Fairphone 6 can be ordered with Android or /e/OS .
https://shop.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-e-operating-system
yeh I know but that means buying a new phone again. I'm on FP5 and probably won't buy another one cause they have missed the boat for too long on this and not listened to their users who have asked for a privacy based OS out of the box for years
good for you. I had the FP4 before this and found it just slowed down and became annoying to use. granted part of that was down to me however when the camera stopped working completely I gave up on it. I don't want to spend hours rebuilding my phone and fiddling to make it work well but I do want privacy and you couldn't have both....but hopefully times are changing
M-A.Delsuc@slamr @johnlogic @itsfoss
Maybe you should have searched a little more when you bought your FP5.
I have a FP3 running e/os , I bought it with e/os on it. I bought it 5 years ago (running version 1.09 at that time I think) , even before the FP4 existed.
I bought it directly on the web with e/os, I did not flash anything !!
It is am now running e/os 3.5 - not a single problem, except a screen an a battery change.
The company that sold the FP3 to me changed its name and is now murena, but I got a full support all along.
Maybe you should have searched a little more when you bought your FP5.
I have a FP3 running e/os , I bought it with e/os on it. I bought it 5 years ago (running version 1.09 at that time I think) , even before the FP4 existed.
I bought it directly on the web with e/os, I did not flash anything !!
It is am now running e/os 3.5 - not a single problem, except a screen an a battery change.
The company that sold the FP3 to me changed its name and is now murena, but I got a full support all along.
@ma_delsuc @johnlogic @itsfoss
are you able to run apps on it? my FP4 just became unusable
@slamr @johnlogic @itsfoss oh yes.
Except the GPS app (maps) has stopped working a few releases ago.
I don't care, I use Comaps which is very good;
And City mapper that never worked (too many trackers ?)
Except the GPS app (maps) has stopped working a few releases ago.
I don't care, I use Comaps which is very good;
And City mapper that never worked (too many trackers ?)
Moté@slamr @johnlogic @itsfoss I think they've been partnering for a long time. You can install /e/os on Fairphone since FP3. I don't see how you can disqualify Fairphone for this, when literraly not other vendor has done this before them 🤔
@petitmote @johnlogic @itsfoss
yeh I've been following the threads and maybe missed something but I thought it was the community that did this port and a bit finicky to get working well...?
@slamr @johnlogic @itsfoss it's not Fairphone themselves, but they're officially supported by /e/os. I don't know to which extent Fairphone helped them. Having the Fairphone OS open source made the work easier, for all I know.
@petitmote @johnlogic @itsfoss
yeh that's exactly my point, it's not exactly a secret the community has been asking for this for years and FP seem to have just ignored it in preference to letting the community do all the heavy lifting
🇪🇺🇩🇪Machina@slamr @petitmote @johnlogic @itsfoss
As far as I know it is sold with /e/OS as an option out of the box, even on the fairphone website.
Flashing manually, if you bought android, is as easy as it gets and for me it has been more stable and performative than android. One of the reasons I switched other than being fed up with google was because the performance wasn't good on stock android and /e/OS basically fixed it for me.
(FP5)
Nazo@slamr @itsfoss Flashing your phone won't brick it unless you really really REALLY screw up in ways that I just don't even know how you could actually do on accident. In fact, it's kind of hard to do on purpose...
I mean, ok, you could "soft brick" in flashing something that doesn't boot, but you just flash again the right way and it's fine.
I guess it's possible to lock the bootloader on a phone that doesn't allow unlocking via the recovery but with a bad bootloader installed, but even then you can flash a stock OS with the correct keys and it should boot so you can unlock it again. (Also just don't lock it until you know what you're doing. 🤷 )
Yeah, short version is you can't really brick it.
BTW Graphene likes locking. They'll come pre-locked.
ok the documentation gives another impression but haven't tried it. tbh sitting down and fiddling with my phone for hours to get it working is not enticing and that's exactly my point...many people want privacy out of the box
maybe I'll look at this again. thanks
I do agree that it would be nice if things gave us some actual options. We shouldn't have to install third party stuff to get basics. There should be a selection on purchase as to what comes stock. (And no bloatware crap that forces us to have to reinstall anyway.)
But sadly that doesn't exist and Graphene phones won't come with a selection either. If you decide you want, say, Calyx when it comes back (soon?) you'll need to unlock it and flash. If they let you. We'll have to see... (The dev behind Graphene is kind of stubborn about this stuff and I can absolutely see them declaring that unlocking being allowed at all is a security hazard and thus it should not be allowed.)
yeh that! ☹️
Kalle Kniivilä@slamr @itsfoss Well, depends on which box...
https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-fairphone-6/
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Jaro Reinders@slamr Fairphone has partnered with #murena (https://murena.com). You can buy a Fairphone with a privacy respecting alternative OS from them.
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EnderWiggin@slamr @itsfoss I don't think Motorola will be selling their phones with GrapheneOS already flashed on them by default (but it's just my opinion and I'm really hoping I'm wrong). Fairphone does sell their phones with /e/OS and IodeOS also sells some phones with their software flashed on their website.
Michel Sardon 🎸@itsfoss surprised... another American company 🤦♂️
> For the rest of the world, i guess neither a chinese nor an american company seems like a good idea
salguod, man 🍂🍁 lazysupper@lazysupper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola 🤔
> The mobility thing is owned by Lenovo... Guess looks like the reverse of tiktok
@sardon
I assumed the company that's been defunct for 15 years is not making the phones, but rather its successor:
Janik 
Electron Wizard 
@janikvonrotz @itsfoss While you were spending the time to mention me, I've already studied the blade (aka. installed GrapheneOS)
@electron_wizard @itsfoss I shall be the one who withold ty knowledge to thy.
andi
Ajit Ananthadevan@itsfoss competition is nice. But when it comes to communications tech, fragmentation is a headache. Yep unless they come up with standards
Mario
It's The Coffee Knight@itsfoss honestly a pleasant surprise
Helio Loureiro