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I wish DS9 hadn't aged so well.

@jozeldenrust @c_reider it is really amazing how well it has aged, and not just in the "lol we told you war was bad" sort of way.

The downside of DS9 is that Americans can still look at themselves as the Federation. "Yeah we're not perfect, but look at the bad guys!" without zero introspection, not realizing that we are, in fact, the Cardassians.

@dresstokilt @jozeldenrust @c_reider

I guess that would make the EU the federation and like... china the Romulans I guess?

@Rasp @jozeldenrust @c_reider Interestingly, the Romulans were *always* a stand-in for China, just as the Klingons were a stand in for the Soviet Union. But yeah, the Federation being sort of an EU-cognate right now really tracks. Better question is who is the Earth in this analogy? I.e., the ones in the driver seat while everyone else does just enough to keep them from driving off a bridge?

@dresstokilt @jozeldenrust @c_reider

I was wondering why that lined up too damn well.

@dresstokilt @Rasp @jozeldenrust @c_reider also wondering who the U.S. is… are we the Ferengi?
@ShadSterling @Rasp @jozeldenrust @c_reider No, definitely the Cardassians.
@Rasp @dresstokilt @jozeldenrust @c_reider uhhhh I got lost in the replies and lost track of the premise. Oops. But yeah, both fits

@jozeldenrust @c_reider I think that about several sci-fi programs

Any Star Wars or Babylon 5 for example

@c_reider Keeping Up With The Cardassians

@c_reider @chu damn, the first time I read this I read Kardashians. #dyslexic

Then I saw the memes below and was puzzl …
Oh 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️.

@c_reider
You know, this is how I think it must have been for a regular citizen in germany who was not targeted by the gouvernment. And now I know why so many said "But we didn't know about all the bad things the gouvernment did! We didn't know!" after WW2 and get VERY ANGRY when you show them newspaper articles to contradict their statement as lies.

(Disclaimer: I'm german and my great grandfather was held by the Nazis in KZ Dachau because he was a social-democratic politician. We knew what they did and never denied it.)

@c_reider thank you, I had been hoping to see this post again but didn't feel like I'd be able to find it on my own <3
@c_reider What gets me is my big Trumper cousin is a Star Wars fan. What does he think Star Wars was ABOUT?
@rodneylives @c_reider A lot of people don't watch science fiction with their heads; they watch it with their insecurities. So if he feels small and beleaguered and indignant, he is clearly the smaller, beleaguered, indignant plucky characters. I learned years ago, writing, that the thing you most can't correct for is reader *affect*.
@c_reider Imagine being a humble tailor...