GrapheneOSWe're happy to announce a long-term partnership with Motorola. We're collaborating on future devices meeting our privacy and security standards with official GrapheneOS support.
https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/
🌸 lumi-nhac 
@GrapheneOS does this mean i will be able to get a degoogled motorola device in the future?
Alexia 
@alexia @GrapheneOS yeah, ofc the end goal is using a proper linux phone, to get maximal freedom and security
but having a degoogled android device is a step along the way. though i have been stuck at that step since around 2014
but having a degoogled android device is a step along the way. though i have been stuck at that step since around 2014
@lumi @alexia GrapheneOS and the Android Open Source Project are Linux distributions. We strongly disagree with the premise that glibc, systemd and GNOME are preferable to the much more private and secure AOSP software stack. Moving to the desktop software stack would be a huge regression for nearly everything we care about and focus on improving. It's already possible to run desktop Linux apps in GrapheneOS including GUI apps via the hardware virtualization support and there's a desktop mode.
witch_t *navi@GrapheneOS @lumi
me with a musl, openrc, and sway system looking over -- i think you're starting with the wrong premise here
me with a musl, openrc, and sway system looking over -- i think you're starting with the wrong premise here
@navi @lumi Where's the application sandboxing, memory safe languages, modern exploit protections, deep integration of powerful hardware-based security features and everything else we focus on in GrapheneOS?
Aside from any of that, the concept that the Android Open Source Project isn't a Linux distribution is wrong. Linux isn't the userspace software that's largely portable to other operating systems. There was a Debian variant using the FreeBSD kernel which is clearly not Linux.
Luci ☯⚛@GrapheneOS @navi @lumi That doesn't take away from what navi said. Either way. What of the concern that AOSP might not be open anymore at some point? The whole ecosystem is being closed down. I think that's definitely a genuine concern. What's your plan when that happens, if you can disclose? Will you maintain a fork of AOSP with Motorola, or by yourselves? That's kind of what I would like to know so I can feel reassured that there's a future for the platform even if Google further alters the deal.
Edit: This comment was followed up by the type of activity we've all come to expect from whoever seems to run GrapheneOS' social media, but they since deleted their side of it and blocked me... :') I summed it up here:
zivi@quantumsys @GrapheneOS @navi @lumi AOSP should not be relied on if you give any amount of fucks about freedom. sure it’s technically a linux distribution, but that says little when you have to plead OEMs for what little up to date source code is available. it’s being actively crippled by google into a complete dead end.