capitalists: "without a profit motive, nobody would do anything. society would collapse."

my friends & acquaintances: "I implemented a SPARC emulator in pure CSS"

@AmyZenunim

It's really crazy (and infuriating) when they say this.

Capitalism is not that old. How do they think villages and communities were built and managed before capitalism?

Also, they will often default to the "who will clean the sewers in a socialist world?".

Man, I'd be happy to clean the sewers, on my own terms and schedule if it could prevent me from waking up every single day at dawn to do fuck all in front of a computer for 8 hours :|

@Beldarak @AmyZenunim Before capitalism, we had serfs. Are you actually saying everyone should just go back to being serfs?

@octorine @AmyZenunim

Ofc not, I clearly stated I was in favour of socialism.

Feodalism wasn't the only system before capitalism. You took the worst exemple, why?

But anyway, I'm not saying we should go BACK, just that other systems are possible and that we should move FORWARD, away from capitalism.

To be fair, I also read about better capitalist systems, so those are options too, but capitalists will just close their ears any time someone says we should improve society somehow.

@Beldarak @AmyZenunim I picked feudalism because that's where capitalism came from, so if you want to talk about life before capitalism, it seems like the natural place to start.

@octorine @AmyZenunim

That's one of the issue capitalism has I think. It comes from an exploitative system and evolved through crisisn revolutions and industrial changes to become another exploitative system.

But like I said, my point was just to say capitalism wasn't always there and can be replaced. I don't think it should be replaced with older systems though but rather a new one.

@octorine @AmyZenunim

That new system would put the people and the planet at the center.

Using the technological progress we made and put it at work towards those goals.

But for that we need to get rid of the sociapathic oligarchs that are currently running the show.

Progress and production should serve humanity, not a few child rapists at the top.