KBWell now we know who's REALLY in charge of the Scottish branch office. Yes, it's sleekit, slimy, scumbag "Scottish Secretary", wee Doogie Alexander.
That's you tellt, Anus.
DOUGLAS ALEXANDER TELLS ANAS SARWAR 'NOT TO COMMENTATE ON UK POLITICS'
Wen@decembr14 Exactly. But if you don’t mind please use the full url. Shortened urls are a real security and privacy risk for people without properly secured browsers. And they don’t add to the length of the toot.
@Wen
Actually, that IS the full URL (as you will see if you watch in your browser's address bar - it does not redirect). It is an archived copy of the article on archive.is, it's not the original article on The National website. This allows people to view the article who may not be able to read it on The National, where many are behind a paywall. There is no security risk. (Honestly, I know what I'm doing with this stuff. It's my business. 🙂)
Actually, that IS the full URL (as you will see if you watch in your browser's address bar - it does not redirect). It is an archived copy of the article on archive.is, it's not the original article on The National website. This allows people to view the article who may not be able to read it on The National, where many are behind a paywall. There is no security risk. (Honestly, I know what I'm doing with this stuff. It's my business. 🙂)
@decembr14 This is how I see it
When it expands you may well, but it is still a shortened url. And archive.is does give you the full one.
Just saying…
@Wen
Look, I'm not going to get into a long debate about this, but it does NOT 'expand'. That is the actual URL on the archive.is site. Yes, archive.is does state on the page the ORIGINAL article URL, which if you copy/paste it into your browser will take you to The National website, where you may or may not be able be abe to view it, depending on whether it is paywalled.
archive.is is an archiving site, not a URL shortening service. Full copies of articles are stored on archive.is servers.
@decembr14 I won’t either. And yes I know what archive.is is and I know what it does. I also understand why you have referred or archived The National site. But surely even you can understand you have posted a shortened url that redirects to something that is not clear. And can result in an archived document that is unsafe.
And yes we do security as well.
@Wen
Absolutely the last word.
IT IS NOT REDIRECTING. Watch your browser address bar - the URL does not change.
It is an archive.is URL for a page on the archive.is website, being a COPY of an article elsewhere. The URL does not redirect you away from the archive.is website.
I'm sorry, you may think you "do security" as well but you clearly do not understand this distinction. And please don't call me 'lazy'; that was simply rude.
@decembr14 I’m last word. Click on the link you provide and it opens in a browser window (sampled in a ‘clean’ browser running on a virtual machine. The document is one archived on archive.is. Any document can be archived there, and yes a malicious one can be we have demonstrated that.
So yes, lazy and unnecessary.
Bodhipaksa@Wen @decembr14 I have bad news. Archive.is and its sister sites seem to be run by a bad actor who is extremely vindictive and who is changing the content of archived pages. Wikipedia have stopped using links to it. It's pretty nasty stuff.
They seem to be Russian, and my own guess is that it's part of a ploy by Putin to weaken legacy media in the west. But that part might just be my paranoia.
@bodhipaksa @Wen
Now that's interesting - hadn't heard about that before. I sometimes pass on archive.is/archive.ph etc. links to people where the original is paywalled, and (so far!) I've never seen evidence of the article text being altered. Oh well; another thing spoiled.
Now that's interesting - hadn't heard about that before. I sometimes pass on archive.is/archive.ph etc. links to people where the original is paywalled, and (so far!) I've never seen evidence of the article text being altered. Oh well; another thing spoiled.
@bodhipaksa @decembr14 I have seen that, although I have to admit my beef was with the unnecessary and lazy use of shortened urls. The argument by the poster against was one of redirection.
Mr E McKissock@bodhipaksa
I started using archive.is when archive.org went offline. Not sure when that was, maybe one to two years back.
I'm back to archive.org while it lasts.
Appreciate the headsup about archive.is
@decembr14 If you had posted the full reference it would have shown the link to the document that was archived that is my point. This was lazy and unnecessary.
@decembr14 Ps - it is quite possible to archive an obscured spoof as well.
pawkypaul@decembr14
Every time I see Douglas Alexander I imagine him starring in a live action remake of The Muppets. He only needs a fiery unkempt red wig on him and he is Beaker. Just saying.
Every time I see Douglas Alexander I imagine him starring in a live action remake of The Muppets. He only needs a fiery unkempt red wig on him and he is Beaker. Just saying.
