@idahobucks

who won the 2020 us presidential election? and who was president at the time?

thank you to everyone who showed up and voted then

you agree?

so get the fuck out of here with your cowardice and premature capitulation

vote, you spineless asshole

if fascism does destroy us democracy, it will be because of MAGA, and meek submissive fear-addled weak whiners

you CAN vote out orban

you CAN vote out trump

you CAN vote out fascism

fuck this weak whiny defeatism

@idahobucks

Do you vote?

If so good

That's what we need. Then we gradually iterate to better

Buy if you don't vote, go fuck yourself. You're the reason as much as MAGA why we are sliding to fascism

All these fucking lazy rationalizations do is serve various weaknesses and character failures that, in aggregate with other whiny losers, leads to fascism

That's it

VOTE

@benroyce @idahobucks Pauline Hanson would like an explanation please.

The existence/election of Fraser Anning might be a salutary example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Anning

Australia has compulsory voting and a wider "universal" franchise than the US but still manages to elect and give power to utter bastards.

@moz @idahobucks

I don't understand what the point is

We should all vote, right?

PS: is this the guy who got an egg to the face from a teenager?

@brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

sure but the #primaries coming up this year can get us real left candidates who can freeze #trump's agenda if we also show up in november in the general #election

so try to focus on that, this year at least

@benroyce @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

Also, the chances of even very center-right dem candidates being anywhere near as awful as the MAGA are really slim. There may be a Tulsi Gabbard hiding somewhere we don't know about, but beyond that, not saying or doing Nazi s... is a fair recommendation compared to the alternative.*

* I say this as a European left-winger, meaning that even American left-wingers look quite right-wing to me.

@SuneAuken @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

I agree with you

You're speaking of long term tactics, good strategy, a rational approach

I would prefer a real left candidate but barring that: hold the line, iterate, get real improvement the next round of voting

This is the only way to achieve anything

The lesser of two evils is still less evil

Of course for saying this we now incur the wrath of the seething howling toxic idealists

As if those assholes ever achieve anything in life except whining