Had a weird last email conversation five years ago, where I had been trying to explain to an old friend how awful the Epstein rot was in American power elites.

There was an ugly moment where I realized the person I was talking to thought it was all dubious nonsense and that I was a loon.

Oof.

Then the meta-discussion came to the front, and obliterated the original discussion, shoved it right off the table.

#metadiscussion

I said,

'There is another layer to conversations, where I ask myself,

"What is this person saying?"
"What does this person think?"
"What do they think of me?"
"What do they think of what I'm saying?"
"What part of their conceptual framework does it fit into?"

I will sit with that. I will sit with those questions.'

#metadiscussion