KrisIf you beat up the firefox team long enough you actually get the required controls.
WooShell
George Liquor, American@isotopp Counterpoint: Mozilla has nothing but contempt for their users, and are treating us like complete idiots
2xfo@liquor_american @isotopp oof, i was riffing on their confusion about "consent' but i guess i shouldn't be surprised π
RRB@liquor_american @isotopp As opposed to the other tech providers?
@liquor_american @isotopp I am open to alternatives.
Richard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP π¨π¦πΉπ΄ββοΈπ· πΊοΈI've blocked everything for now but I might turn on translations and image alt text.
maaneeack
Gorobar@maaneeack doesn't the "new and current (...) are blocked by default" mean opt-in or is that part only "if opt-out"?
@gorobar They made the 'killswitch' so that you can individually re-enable certain features. That's what that notice means.
Opt-in would mean that no AI was enabled by default, and you could choose to enable it.
Opt-in would mean that no AI was enabled by default, and you could choose to enable it.
@maaneeack OK, I understand - thanks for the info.
I guess it's better than nothing like this, but definitely should have been opt-in.
I guess it's better than nothing like this, but definitely should have been opt-in.
Patrick Morris Miller@isotopp But we don't have to stop, right?
Michelle HughesHow hard do we have to beat them up to get them to stop working on this AI stuff and focus on making the browser good?
DNKrupinski π§‘π΄ββ οΈ@MegaMichelle @isotopp They should still be able to do the job β¦
Jon
Ray McCarthy@isotopp
No, the AI features shouldn't be there to need turning off!
They haven't listened ever I can remember on GUI (it's destroyed) or changes on plugins, or fixing bugs.
I've dozens of non-AI settings I now have to change in about:config.
They've made abysmal changes to Thunderbird. Using Firefox since 1.0.4
No, the AI features shouldn't be there to need turning off!
They haven't listened ever I can remember on GUI (it's destroyed) or changes on plugins, or fixing bugs.
I've dozens of non-AI settings I now have to change in about:config.
They've made abysmal changes to Thunderbird. Using Firefox since 1.0.4
Armin
The Orange Theme@isotopp No, it should have been opt-in.
Stefan 'lerothas' D. 
@isotopp
1. The wording is absolute garbage. There is no enhancement with AI, it's annoyance and spyware.
2. I'm already off FireSlop and will keep it that way for the foreseeable future. π€·ββοΈ
3. It should have been opt-in from the beginning and not an opt-out after community going rampage. π€¦ββοΈ
Ben Ford 
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@isotopp not a fun of AI, but the fox is cute β
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jesterchen42@isotopp Well... no. They shouldn't have bothered with AI from the begin with...
Gerard Cunningham βοΈI'd have preferred AI-free (and I'm not planning on going back from AI-free forks anytime soon) but it's a start.
Leeloo@isotopp
Block?
Still no option to disable. Words have meaning.
Like an ad blocker vs not having ads. Or a popup blocker vs if javascript never had a window.open function in the first place. "Block" is the one we use when trying to stop the browser from doing something, but the bad guys keep finding workarounds.
Rusty
Complexity of systems π³οΈββ§οΈ@isotopp and I now have to turn this on immediately
Richard Crawshaw@isotopp too late. I've switched to Vivaldi; I'm not going back.
Pip
Cyb3rrunn3r :fediverse::verified::fckafd:@isotopp and instantly blocked this shit. π
moldavia