Guy who's trying his bestFeb 22
I'm still constantly baffled by just how absolutely beyond shit modern computers are
Show threadkabel42Feb 22
@OpenComputeDesign x86 was a mistake? :)
Show threadkabel42Feb 22
@OpenComputeDesign
16 bit was a mistake?
transistors were a mistake?
how modern are we talking? :)
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign

16-bit/early-32-bit was my favorite era. (Basically, the #68k era ;)

Computers were just becoming capable, but not too big for their britches.

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 22

@rl_dane @kabel42

Yeah, tbh, we really should have stopped at 32-bit

Show threadkabel42Feb 22
@OpenComputeDesign @rl_dane I had a good time with my first amd athlon 64 but sure, simpler times :)
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign

I think computers were honestly better when they were limited to absolutely no more than 1GB RAM, no more than 256 colors, and no more than 1024x768 screen resolution.

1GB RAM: no LLMs
256 colors: no horrid low-contrast soupy interfaces
XGA Resolution: no horrid empty spaces and bloated interfaces

I keep wanting to make that as an OS 😄

(If only I had the skillz)

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 22

@rl_dane @kabel42

Yeah, older GUIs were _so much better_ it's actually impressive just how fast and how hard GUI design has fallen off a cliff

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42

Yeah, and the pushback I get from statements like that is insane to me.

"But we don't want to go back to Windows 95."

I don't either, it was a crap OS, but the interface was better than the crap interfaces they're shipping today, so ?!?!????!?

Show threadpixxFeb 22

@rl_dane

I'd rather w95 with its software suite and interface than w11 with its.

W11 is a worse OS than w95 was.

@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@pixx @OpenComputeDesign @kabel42

It does have memory protection, though. That was Windows 95's most glaring weakness.

Edit: I meant to say that it doesn't. derp.
Edit2: No, I was saying that W11 has memory protection. lol

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 22

@rl_dane @pixx @kabel42

Modern software still absolutely _sucks_ with anything to do with memory. Any claims modern OS's make are, at best, just giving people a false sense of security.

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@OpenComputeDesign @pixx @kabel42

Brofam, Windows 95 used to crash on me daily.

Linux? Basically never.

FreeBSD? Maaaaybe once a week.

Show threadkabel42Feb 22
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign @pixx i had to reinstall win95 about as ofthen as i reboot linux :)
Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 22

@kabel42 @rl_dane @pixx

Have to reinstall linux at least once a season :P

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @pixx

I have linux installs last me years. Except for Arch-based. :P
Also had bad luck with Solus, but I only tried it once.

Show threadkabel42Feb 22
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign @pixx
'I've installed arch when my core 2 duo was new and it still works on a AMD Ryzen 9 7900, so i can't complain
Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 22

@kabel42 @rl_dane @pixx

Nahhh, arch based distros die after using pacman more than once. First time is free. Second time always comes with dire consequences. Up to and including kernel panics

Show threadkabel42
@OpenComputeDesign @rl_dane @pixx thats why you use yay ;)
Feb 22 at 9:04pmWeb
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign @pixx

Okay, but that's worse.
I mean, you you do get how that's worse, right?

#RandomAproposTheGoodPlaceQuotes #S1E01 #TheGoodPlace #TheGoodPlaceQuotes

Show threadkabel42Feb 22
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign @pixx no?
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign @pixx

yay can really mess up a system. Not that it ever happened to me, but there's a lot of caution about it, and that's why it's not installed by default (IIRC).

Show threadkabel42Feb 22
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign @pixx it is if you use the endeouver installer :)
It also just uses libpackman, so it shouldn't make much of a difference except for extra info in the update dialog and some aur automation
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign @pixx

Endeavour pooped in the bed when doing a grub update.

So did Manjaro.

I swore off Arch-based after that.

Show threadkabel42Feb 23
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign @pixx I had to boot from a usb stick and grub-install once
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign @pixx

Do you use LUKS?

Show threadkabel42Feb 23
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign @pixx on that machine, yes
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign @pixx

I could neither resuscitate it, nor find any useful info or help on the forums for doing so, neither on Manjaro nor EndeavourOS. :/

Show threadkabel42Feb 23
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign @pixx for me sudo grub-install was all i needed IIRC, maybe you had a broken initramfs?
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign @pixx

No idea. It was my work computer, and I didn't have a ton of time to futz with it. I backed it up, nuked, and paved. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 23

@rl_dane @kabel42 @pixx

LUKS??? Gee, talk about things that will _RUIN EVERYTHING_

Nothing could ever make me touch LUKS ever again. Nuh uh, not a chance, ain't no way

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @pixx

making my system unbootable is less bad than giving my data to housekeeping, the TSA, or pervy patrick at the coffee shop.

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 23

@rl_dane @kabel42 @pixx

Well, I disagree tbh. But I never leave the house anyway

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @pixx

I'm sorry. :'(

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 23

@rl_dane @kabel42 @pixx

About what?

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @pixx

Never leaving the house.

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 23

@rl_dane @kabel42 @pixx

Oh, but that's a good thing!
Have you _seen_ the outside world?

It's _much_ better in here, trust me

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @pixx

No, it's not.

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 23

@rl_dane @kabel42 @pixx

I don't understand?

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @pixx

It's not better in_there.

No matter how bad it is out_there, it's never better in_there.

It just feels safer, and more comfortable.

And to be sure, it IS safer than the world at large.

But you are also missing out on so, so much.

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 23

@rl_dane @kabel42 @pixx

What could I possibly be missing out on? Other than getting backstabbed or catching the flu

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @pixx

humanity, love, kindness, serving other, art, music, enjoyment, fresh air, literally the entire universe.

Show threadGuy who's trying his bestFeb 23

@rl_dane @kabel42 @pixx

I get all the art and music I need in here. I get all the fresh air I need at work (and more sawdust and diesel smoke than I need, sometimes, but that's besides the point)

And, if past experiences are anything to go by, there's no love, kindness, or humanity to be found out there