Dr Zoyander StreetFeb 21

Instead of defending the use of LLMs for polishing up your writing, we could be advocating for unpolished writing. Blog posts with spelling errors and awkwardly repeated words. Emails that sound a bit less warm and professional because you forgot the preamble of "Apologies for the late reply, hope you're well! Thanks for the thing last week".

If there's no budget for a human editor, why should the text meet a "professional" (middle class, formally educated) standard? Dyslexic people can just write how they write and people can deal with it. Autistic people can just say what they mean to say and not waste energy on the double empathy gap.

We can learn to read for a more inclusive world, instead of wasting the planet's diminishing resources masking our differences.

Show threadDaniel ReedersFeb 21

@zoy 'instead of accommodations we should just eliminate the role of grammar in class distinction.' this is my least favourite leftism (and I'm a socialist). no reform, only radical change allowed! people asking for incremental accommodations are traitors to the revolution!

making writing accessible to all is one of the very few good things about LLMs. let the unconfident writers polish their prose and let's target the financial and environmental and industrial injustice and unsustainability of 'AI' directly.

Show threadElchFeb 21

@onekind Except that llms aren't making writing accessible to all. They take what you wrote in the first place, bleach its meaning, eliminate your voice and leave you with a bland, mostly meaningless, and bloated string of words that nobody wants to read. They are a way of keeping people from learning to express themselves. Why do you think style and a certain register are signifiers of class? They signal you had the time to hone those skills.

@zoy

Show threadDmitry Tantsur

@dimllychlyngarw @onekind @zoy this is just a dump of your favorite stereotypes about LLM.

If you suddenly want your point to be understood by a varied audience, including people who may be prejudiced against you, you have no option than to polish it. If you cannot do it (e.g. because you're not a native speaker) and cannot afford paying for it, LLMs are your next best choice.

"Let's accept imperfect texts" is a great idea but wishful thinking in reality. Try it with your big boss.

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Show threadElchFeb 21

@creepy_owlet Is it? Or are you just flouting your lack of understanding of texts and writing?

If you can't express your point (well enough) in a certain language, how can you know that whatever an llm spits out actually represents your point? And why would you "suddenly" be in that specific position?

I haven't seen a perfect text in my entire life. And I've never written one. My bosses haven't, either. So yeah, everybody around me accepts imperfect texts
@onekind

Show threadDaniel ReedersFeb 21
@dimllychlyngarw @creepy_owlet the word you were looking for is 'flaunting.'