DJFogbound
moss 
the AI industry is going to have us maintaining the current gaming PCs like Cuban cars
valsombra
Eric Brombaugh@mosssupply That garage full of old laptops I've got is gonna be worth SO MUCH!
Ozzelot 
@emeb @mosssupply I could run a datacenter off all those flea market Core 2 Duo laptops I've hoa... collected!
Michael McCune ☮️@mosssupply i feel like we are doing this with old 8/16-bit micros too.
/me looks at pile of commodore 64s and amiga 500s
Carolyn@mosssupply And computers, cars, appliances…
cev/briar/fox@CStamp @mosssupply yeah but only in so far as you can obtain replacement parts. right to repair has a long way to go. I guess less of an issue in PCs. But cars have been a pretty big issue with right to repair
Nicolas Ward 
@CStamp @mosssupply Can't wait for my dishwasher subscription (Bosch+ w/ Experiences)
Mayor of Nerdocrumbesia 🏡[starts dishwasher, alert pops-up on app (required to use dishwasher)]:
"We detected your not using Finish detergent - the recommended detergent for Bosch EcoSmart AI dishwashers. Tap continue to acknowledge and start the washing process."
Yeah, I'm starting to look at my 2017 six-speed manual Honda Accord like a treasured Fabergé egg that I'll need to maintain the rest of my life.
Mad Engineering@mosssupply if I ever have to make a pc out of 7400 chips and microcontrollers, I'm going to be so angry.
Morten@mosssupply Simply because RAM is 5x more expensive and SSDs 2x more expensive? And GPUs... Well, can you get those as a commoner?
The playstation 6 is going to be coming in 2032, isn't it?
Dan Sugalski@mosssupply Next thing you know the non-AI part of the industry's gonna have to actually think about space and speed efficiency and optimization in their code.
Sign of the apocalypse, I suspect.
Michael BaudisSince you can run decent general models on a MacBook w/ 48GB RAM or such they just want to make sure this doesn’t become a basic configuration.
aburka 🫣@mosssupply which is what we should have been doing already tbh
passthejoeI'm already daily driving a 9-year-old HP laptop (I had TWO from 2017, but one recently died and gave its RAM and SSD to the other) and a 15-year-old iMac (resuscitated with Debian and surprisingly usable) and I assume this state of affairs will continue.
h0h0kam@mosssupply I've already taken one machine (main homelab) down and replaced it with a SFF mini pc I had around because many of it's parts can be used on my personal computer. I didn't want it plugged in and get damaged.
Bob Tregilus@mosssupply Indeed.
For whom the Taco Bell tolls@mosssupply what is the equivalent of making new aesbestos brake shoe linings by hand? I feel like I'm already doing that
River, the Andean PuppyI'd actually wonder what do you end up doing with the prebuilts in the market.
Or the portable gaming PCs, like GPD.
Urzl@mosssupply And what of all the digital baby pictures?
PMFL 
@mosssupply It is swallowing all the components.
Owl Eyes@mosssupply I was actually considering buying an NVidia 1080 to make such a box. To play some @veloren
The Turtle@mosssupply next to me I have no fewer than four laptops. None was built in this DECADE. And over there is a Sony PDA that was almost not built in this century!
They work fine.
Bruce Heerssen 
@mosssupply
I wonder if we can crowd source DDR5 production
I wonder if we can crowd source DDR5 production
Zugmuth das zornige Zebra@mosssupply
And just like they dont have fuel for their old, maintained cars, we wont have power for those PCs... Let alone some clean water and something to eat... Or a habitable Planet to use it on.
And just like they dont have fuel for their old, maintained cars, we wont have power for those PCs... Let alone some clean water and something to eat... Or a habitable Planet to use it on.
an actual bus@mosssupply Honestly I'm working on a game right now and I'm using OpenGL instead of Vulkan for this exact reason. We might all be running toasters in the near future.
Cleo@mosssupply already tapping the local trans social anarchy network. Got 16gb of ddr4 out of it.
Androcat@mosssupply Well, we only have to outlast them until the bubble pops.
Let's get gamers invested in making that happen, shall we?
shadows
gary@shadows @mosssupply the venerable, but capable, e-machine
Knightmare@shadows @mosssupply by 'never obsolete' they mean made obsolete.
MrGrumpyMonkey@shadows @mosssupply I mean, you can use the case.
woe2you@mosssupply Already am.
Fazal Majid@mosssupply probably not what Bunnie Huang had in mind when he talked about heirloom laptops, but there we go
Jo - pièce de résistance
TeflonTrout 
he/himMy 2016 gaming rig will keep humming along I hope (looks at hybrid SSD warily)
Curious@mosssupply yup, right up until you can buy high end GPUs for 10% of retail by the hundreds with a crate of DDR5 thrown in for free.
e@mosssupply Reddit is already full of stories of ppl dumpster diving electronics and PC outlets for spare parts!
Maria Langer | 📝💎🌵🛥️@mosssupply @JSteven This is a perfect analogy.
Agnew Hawk 
@mosssupply
We will have bulky DIY RAM kits bolted to the side of the chassis, that make weird noises, wired in by whatever cabling was available + some copper salvaged from old phone lines for good measure.
No-one will know how it will work, but if the RAM purrs, then the RAM is happy
Heckin' Chonker@mosssupply How do I put the smoke back inside the GPU?
David Penfold 
@mosssupply Oh, very good 👏👏👏
Luci Bitchface Angerfoot@mosssupply it’s John Titor’s world we just live in it
Fabien Trégan@mosssupply and that's the only good thing about it.