James ThomsonFeb 16

Writers: Generative AI models were built on our stolen works, are deeply unethical, and risk devaluing our entire profession.

Artists: Generative AI models were built on our stolen works, are deeply unethical, and risk devaluing our entire profession.

Developers: Wheeeeeeeeee!

Show threadJonathan PolleyFeb 16
@jamesthomson I stopped supporting ATP because of their change from “AI is theft” to “you should pay $20 per month for ChatGPT.”
Show threadAlexandraFeb 16
@the_other_jon @jamesthomson I was confused about this change as well. But they use Apple products, while being sceptical about the company. What’s wrong about using ai as a useful tool, while knowing its problems?
Show threadJonathan PolleyFeb 16

@owlex Are the training sets licensed or just strip mined from the web/redit/github/sourceforge? This was the cause for their “AI is theft” statement.

From a technical standpoint: Are these training sets free from bugs? If you use an ai tool to generate tests, are they useful tests? A useful test is one that tries to break the code instead of showing that the code “works. Tests that that exercise the interfaces or cover the code tend to not be “useful” tests.

Show threadFelipe Cepriano
@the_other_jon @owlex uh, I definitely disagree on your stance about tests: A test that checks if something is working is really useful when you need to refactor something and needs to be sure the changes haven't affected existing behaviour
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Show threadJonathan PolleyFeb 21
@felipecn i have run into more than a few instances where the software didn’t really work. The testing passed because they tested what worked and not what it was supposed to do.