I have been trying to think of ways of making the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming.

To people outside the Fediverse.

To people thinking of joining the Fediverse.

To people who recently joined the Fediverse.

And more.

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What do YOU think could make the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming?

(Reply with your answers.)

#Fediverse #FriendlyFediverse #SpreadFediverse #WelcomingFediverse

@reiver

if we had 100% portability, we should have an intro server. only allow people on there for a couple months but we could give it extra moderation and hand holding. everybody would know to give these folks an extra level of consideration.

@reiver The culture here can be pretty toxic. Too much gate-keeping, tone policing, scolding people instead of leading by example.

And without reply controls, no tools to protect yourself from this.

@stefan @reiver a friendly welcome message at the instance's homepage that explains how to join, how to toot and how to meet interesting people.
@reiver Encourage a hashtag like Caturday except it’s just positive, funny, and welcoming messages. Maybe #WelcomeWednesday or #Newsday Tuesdays. Also, are follow lists a thing? I agree, if streamlined portability exists, having a staging instance makes sense until users find their people.
@reiver Improved app-level onboarding and and discovery.
@reiver @dansup starter pack like blue sky. (I know mastodon is working on that)
@reiver Honestly it just takes more influencers to come over, people tend to adapt and learn when they WANT to.
Influencers will bring the crowds and breed the interest to learn the platform.

@nqd We've had people with large followings join the fedi, only to get bullied and harassed away. We will need to fix the culture here first.

@reiver

@reiver No technical mumbo jumbo during the onboarding. Keep tech people with no teaching skills away from the tutorials.
Disband the HOA (this one is a tough one).

@David @reiver Tutorials…is there someplace where all these are currently housed? Because I haven’t a clue where that is and I’ve been using Mastodon for about 2 years. But yes, it would be fabulous if there were videos someplace that walked us thru the early experiences of starting.

Also, yes, a lot less tech speak. Use $2 words instead of $10 words. I’m in my 70s and I did sort of figure it out, still learning, but it could have been easier.

@kentuckyalumni There is no "official" tutorial but there are a bunch online. Few are actually useful, sadly.

@reiver

@David @reiver It is what it is. Always a slog. But maybe going forward things will get better. I’m hopeful.

@kentuckyalumni

https://fedi.tips has been the gold standard for that.

@David @reiver

Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse

An unofficial guide to using Mastodon and the Fediverse

@stefan Is he? Under the guise of objectivity, he often gives very skewed advice to push his view of the fediverse, which I don't find very honest (see how views of Threads being part of the Fediverse or the bridge to and from Bluesky)

@David Ah, I will admit I don't follow the project closely enough, I just see it come up a lot, and it seems to cover a wide breadth of topic in a beginner-friendly way.

Although, I will say, the bridge does have some utility, given that it also works with Blacksky and other non-Bluesky communities, as they progress towards independence from Bluesky.

@reiver @David what does HOA mean?
@aloxe @reiver "Home Owner Association" the gatekeepers that tell you what you should or shouldn't do on the Fediverse, as if they owned it. Spoiler alert: they don't own it and they have no more authority than anyone else about telling people what to do on it.
Sadly newcomers don't know that, and more than a few have been chased away from the Fediverse by the HOA (Bluesky is full of them, when you hear their experience here and why they don't want to come back, it makes you sad and angry)

@reiver host a small instance for your community - whether that means your city, friends, family, interest group, whatever.

Prioritize community interests and act as a reliable onramp to the rest of the Fediverse.

@reiver Frankly: Shared, default active blocklists of people trying to tell new people how to "correctly behave". This includes but is not limited to "it's called Fediverse", "no alt text, no boost", "why are you even on mastodon.social" and all other "helpful" kind of people.
Here goes my lead balloon: a reputation based ranking system. Negative interactions, harassment, being blocked all reduce ranking while positive interactions boot score. Then people can set a threshold on who they want to interact with based on score. Maybe 0 to 100 with everyone starting at 75.

@LurkingPrion

how do you stop somebody from creating bots to fuck with that?

the fedi kinda relies on having a small network of trust and not having to care about the trustworthiness of those outside of that. jerks can be on the network and it doesn't affect me as long as I don't follow them or anybody that boosts their jerky posts and there's a system to keep them from being able to harass me.

we lock down the network unnecessarily when we extend trust too far. a block might be personal etc.

Yes, but they asked what could be done to make it more welcoming to people from other social networks. They don't come here because they want to manually curate a small network. They want a large open network filled with less vitriol. Some way of scoring reputation would help newcomers filter out the haters. That is all.

@reiver less HOA mentality amongst OG users; better messaging to counter the “it’s too confusing" narrative

in general what i see as the barrier is the “algorithm indoctrinated" not being willing to make the effort to build their experience

@reiver the instance selection is really strange when you think you are just getting on an another social media (most people don't care about open source so it needs to be better than the alternative not just the alternative)
@reiver also straight up better algorithm i have trouble staying on mastodon because the post recommandation are not good

@fwtl @reiver

imo it's an insurmountable problem if you care about being decentralized. if you try to hide or sidestep it, you open the door to centralization. I think we're seeing that with bluesky.

I think you have to address it directly. make education and why we're decentralized into part of the messaging.

"we're different and that might make us more difficult, but we've chosen this path because it matters. for you as a person and society at large. our attention determines everything."

@wjmaggos @reiver or maybe juste recommend a random trusted server in the person region ? im kind of a newbie to this so idk

@fwtl @reiver

that's what the mastodon org is going to do. I think that's our best possible model, but it might not ultimately be mastodon. I could see most people on locality based servers that give you the mastodon social news feed functionality, but also stuff like you might want from Next Door. I hope Roundabout does this.

@reiver A wider diversity of project code bases, that are real world functional for needed community use.

https://hamishcampbell.com/funding-proposal-open-media-network-omn-building-portable-human-centred-digital-commons/

@reiver

Definitely better onboarding. Based on my own experience and when I had my wife sign up, these are the things that comes to mind:

1. Explain why you need to sign up on a server, and why you may benefit from signing up on a server that aligns with your interests. A way to pre-filter servers based on a few checkboxes would be great.

2. Explain how there is no algorithm, and that you only start to see content in your feed after you start following others. Starter packs would be a huge difference here, so that should have a very high priority.

3. Explain how moderation works, how to contact your server admin, how to block other users and how to make this a safe space for yourself.

4. Explain how not agreeing with others does not make them unwanted here, as long as they do not actively try to harass you or otherwise interact with you. Nobody owns this - and that includes you.

5. Oh, and lets create a USB disk image that anyone can run from an old laptop and host their own Mastodon, Lemmy, PeerTube, Friendica and Bonfire instance for their family to use. Easy-peasy. 😉

@madsenandersc @reiver Starter packs exist. Not inside Mastodon but as a service. https://fedidevs.com/starter-packs/
Mastodon Starter Pack Directory | Fedidevs

Discover, create, and share Mastodon starter packs to help new users find interesting accounts to follow.

@AnderstS @reiver

I had no idea this existed! 😀

That being said, this describes the problem with onboarding perfectly.

1. I had no idea that this existed, so it is not unreasonable to assume that this goes for a lot of other newcomers as well.

2. It is a list. You can search it, but it is all just in one big pile with no structure or sorting. Search for "politics" and get two results - and I kid you not, one of them is "Shitposters of the Fediverse".

I count 5 SPD-related starter packs that are not shown when I search for "politics", probably because the search feature only looks at the description of the starter pack.

I appreciate the effort, I truly, really do, but it is nowhere near a usable solution for some innocent newbie with huge eyes and trembling hands. They will take one look at that huge pile and run right back to Facebook.