Tim Cook sold Apple's soul

Apple used to stand for something. Now Tim Cook gifts golden statues to Trump, removes apps at the administration's request, and cozies up to accused rapists at White House screenings. The company I once admired has become morally bankrupt, but leaving the ecosystem feels almost impossible.

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@kevinrenskers oh the little dick nazi wannabe site?
@kevinrenskers glad to see your post getting some traction. As for me, I sold my MacBook Pro recently and am now firmly in the Linux camp and no longer own any Apple devices. Meanwhile, the most recent post on Daring Fireball is boasting about Apple's profits - doesn't that mean the CEO is doing well?

@stuartm From a capitalist point of view - sure. But that’s not what I care about.

So you switched to Android too?

@kevinrenskers I switched to Android full-time a few years ago. For a while before that I carried both an iPhone and an Android.
@stuartm Yeah I just don’t think Google’s any better. Definitely worse when it comes to privacy. I don’t see it as a real option to switch to, which makes me feel trapped. This duopoly sucks.

@kevinrenskers at least Google doesn't pretend to care about you! lol

I don't rely on any Google services though. I don't use Gmail, or any of the other Google apps. I use Firefox on Android and desktop, Fastmail for mail/calendars/etc. WhatsApp for messaging. It's pretty difficult to avoid all shitty companies, so I try not to rely on any one of them for too much.

@stuartm @kevinrenskers careful with whatsapp, its owned by Meta Platforms Inc. or in other words, facebook. They are very greasy.

@kevinrenskers @stuartm I have been exploring /e/OS on a phone and so far it works fine? My primary annoyance is that in-app purchases do not work (less money to Google, yay!).

In some ways it's a bit of a downgrade. But enough people have to accept a bit of a downgrade so that the alternatives get enough funding to improve.

Best of all, it does not have liquid glass.

@kevinrenskers > Apple won’t earn another cent from me for hardware.

If one of your existing products bit the dust, would you consider replacing it second-hand through eBay? Technically, Apple wouldn’t get any money. How would you weigh that, morally?

@dgriffinjones yea, second hand is fair game I think. No money goes to Apple. But luckily everything still works perfectly fine and fast enough.

Need to reduce my spending on services.

@kevinrenskers Thank you for writing this. I would like to add another note on “Apple has me trapped”. Banking apps.

As far as I understand, they don’t exist outside of Google and Apple ecosystems and are crucial infrastructure for everyday life.

I’m sure more people have similar issues with whatever needs they have in their life.
(Weirdly, in Canada, certain banking limits are different between web and mobile apps)

@leroy I’ve read that most banking apps are supposed to work on /e/OS? But yeah it’s tricky for sure! This duopoly sucks.
@kevinrenskers I need to look into it again, my banks aren’t the best…
@leroy to be fair I haven’t looked up my specific banks either. No Android Auto is already basically a dead breaker for a de-Googled Android flavor :/

@kevinrenskers hah, my car is too old for that luckily. I can play CDs! But I feel your pain for sure.

My career has been largely shaped by Apple, and trying to shift it is quite difficult when that’s where customers are and what clients want.

@leroy 90% of my professional life between 2012 and 2023 was building iOS apps (the remaining 10% was building Python APIs), so my decision to switch back to the web didn’t come lightly. A huge part of my life revolved around Apple and their devices.
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@leroy @kevinrenskers

I'll be honest, I haven't missed banking apps since I moved to GrapheneOS. I carry a credit card and a pass for transit now. One client in the last year has sent me a paper check that required a trip to a particular ATM. Everything else I can do through a browser.

@stonetree @leroy My bank requires the use of their app to login and to approve transfers.

@kevinrenskers @leroy

oof, that's terrible. It reminds me of poor Werner Herzog needing a phone to park.

https://www.theverge.com/tech/787625/werner-herzogs-smartphone-is-for-parking-lot-emergencies

Werner Herzog’s smartphone is for parking lot emergencies.

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@stonetree @kevinrenskers parking! I forgot about that. ugh, that’s another dependency and the city uses ~7 different apps, depending on the lot (luckily most of them have several options)
@kevinrenskers Thank you for your great text! I feel exactly like you explain and have suffered under Tim Apple for so long. This text from February last year is subpar to yours, but share the same sentiment. I have reduced my spending on Apple hardware to the bare minimum, and while I will still buy what I truly need, I will not do so happily. That’s something I share with most US big tech companies these days, but I never believed Apple would join that gang.
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@danielsaidi nice article! I already don’t use Google, Facebook, X, TikTok, PayPal, Instagram, WhatsApp, etc, so I don’t have too many changes to make. But yeah it really sucks Apple is now rotten as well.
@kevinrenskers Thanks, but it dwarfs in comparison with yours :) Big tech has come a long way from the “Make the world a better place” days.

@kevinrenskers - I just switched my daily driver from mac to linux.
I switched from Windows to Mac when the Mac mini first came out. Mine was the first one sold in Germany (out of a first-day shipment of six :-)
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My big hurdle was Photos. Digikam works for me now.

Still, some things don't work, yet. Bit once I figure it out, they will.
I've felt for years that macs have been deteriorating ever faster, with no solution in sight.

Feels good now.

@axel_hartmann Nobody I know is on Signal, that’s just not a real option for me.
@kevinrenskers then use it as „+1“ option and make some noise. Turns out some people are there already but didn‘t mention it before
@kevinrenskers Great, I was considering Apple after trying my company's Mac Mini.  
@qgustavor It’s still miles better than Windows so I totally understand. Once I tried my first Mac, back in 2005 or so, I also made the switch.
@kevinrenskers apple music is good, but why not switch to Tidal?

@franksting as I said in the article:

My family all use it too, and we love to make collaborative playlists for road trips.

I’m not going to force them to switch to Tidal (I wouldn’t even be able to do so).

@kevinrenskers I used to think Tim had character.
@kevinashworth Maybe when he posted about George Floyd, but other than that not much comes to mind? He mostly seems like a bean counter who doesn’t speak his mind.
@kevinrenskers @kevinashworth Do you think you'd change your mind if he realises it was once again profitable to pretend to care about social issues?

@devolute cynical today, are we?

But the answer is no.

@kevinrenskers Respect. I've been cynical since I realised large corporations don't ever have 'souls' and their primary objective is to make money, almost always at the expense of absolutely everything else and I think it's terribly naive to think anything else.

@devolute I could’ve titled it “Tim Cook sold his own soul to save Apple’s profits”. Maybe that would’ve been more precise.

But he damaged Apple’s reputation alongside his own. And I think calling Apple’s reputation its “soul” isn’t unfair.

@devolute @kevinrenskers Well I hadn’t given it much thought at all but I had assumed good things about him. Guess I did this about a lot of people (but increasingly less so, given all the fascism). Anyway, I was wrong. That’s all I meant. I was wrong.

With things so bad now, getting back to the low level of US leaders pretending to care would go a long way. I hope our evil moment propels us far beyond that low level when we do recover.

Also, sure wish there wasn’t a duopoly on smartphones.

@kevinrenskers so true in every aspect. …
@kevinrenskers After reading this it seems save to assume, that Tim Cook is genuinely afraid.

@virkon42 I think you’re right. I’m sure that in his own mind he’s doing all this to protect Apple’s shareholders. He’s the knight sacrificing himself. And yes, it’s working! No tariffs for Apple.

But at what cost…

@kevinrenskers Is there a rose gold version available?

@kevinrenskers hey GrapheneOS has Android Auto and there is a list of banking apps around the world that work with it!

I have been feeling the same around Apple and other products as well. I feel like if I cut any more out of my life I’ll have nothing at all.

@kevinrenskers I think the conclusion is great, the only way to escape enshittified big tech services is to keep trying and incrementally migrating to self hosted or even just more honest smaller providers, but it's definitely way too daunting to try to do in one fell swoop and destined to fail. Progress beats perfection!
@kevinrenskers I developed a bad feeling towards Apple few years ago, although I used to praise them. Now it got much worse than I imagined. What is in store for Apple users? Glad I am not one of them anymore.
@olokolo Right, for me this feeling has been growing for a few years as well. I used to build iOS apps for a living until 2023 when I decided to switch. So it’s not new but it’s getting worse and worse, Cook’s cozying up to Trump.
@kevinrenskers
Thanks for this insight. As an Apple user since 1992, I really started to feel uneasy only when Tahoe arrived. Before that, while I noticed the embarrassing behaviour of Tim Apple, I thought it wouldn’t affect the product. But now, there is no denying any more.
And for the first time I start to feel the dilemma since I need the stuff to work and there is no viable alternative (and no, for my needs, Linux is not there yet).
@LaOroBob Yeah I am still on iOS 18 and macOS 15 on all my devices. Linux isn't really the biggest problem for me - it's the iPhone.

@kevinrenskers

This blog posts hits home, man. I was aware of some stuff, but there is more perspective in there.

I switched my desktop OS to Linux already, @nextcloud & @homeassistant are my next projects on the list. Not using any Meta or X or Google stuff.

My iPad lays dormant in some box, not using it at all.

For the iPhone, I am not sure. It’s my absolute daily driver. I have hardened it in terms of privacy & data collection.

@Holtisan Yeah the iPhone is the real problem, I just don't see a good alternative to be honest. But I only just started looking into de-Googled Android versions, so who knows.