Quincy ⁂missing #emoji open thread 🧵
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With so many blatant omissions, I'm often surprised when an #emoji turns out to exist.
e.g. ⚗️
AccordionBruce@quincy
The list of denied/refused #emoji is long and sometimes mysterious
Why did they refuse that? Why hasn’t someone proposed something else?
https://unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html
Dave Tabb
LonM@AccordionBruce @quincy I am a big believer that unicode shouldn't be adding emoji unless they're already in use as existing language. From the above thread, I have never seen a radish icon used alongside text, but I have seen a spray can, usually indicating some sort of aerosol.
@LonM @quincy
They require stats on word prevalence with web search data, which gets less and less accurate as search engines sink into AI goo
But #Emoji that people actually use aren’t words you normally search for
The next 😂 “Face with tears of joy” isn’t gonna prove its worth with word search rankings
Everybody wants to propose objects like 🪗 or fave living things 🪼
But folks use emoji like metaphorical emotional punctuation, not word replacement
Unicode needs new tests
@AccordionBruce @quincy yep. especially true for gesture language. In the list you shared they rejected pinky promise, and yet that's very much a part of the language we use, much more so than a hundred different types of food item.
@LonM @quincy
We tried to emphasize metaphorical uses of the image in the #PhonographEmoji proposal they denied 😔
How it would be used in text with examples where people had asked for it and substituted other things online
You never know why they turn things down
Might have been that there was a Grammy Award emoji on Twitter (they sold emoji for $1 million a week)
It seemed like a pretty strong proposal
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/an0z2lff1106uav3fhhat/Proposal-for-Emoji_-PHONOGRAPH-RECORD-PLAYER-July-30.pdf?rlkey=gbh7mz16ylwac71nm8cqb1al7&st=isbyxdel&dl=0
@AccordionBruce @quincy That looks like a well worded proposal. It feels like a bit of a cop-out to have a very specific process in the proposal only for the rejection to be vague
@LonM @quincy
The rejections are a black box. Yes/no. With no comments or explanations
Unicode’s #Emoji Subcommittee makes deliberations in camera, so it’s somewhat understandable that they don’t share how the decisions were made I guess
But it is annoying, especially because you can resubmit proposals something like three years later, and if you don’t know why they were rejected, you have no idea what to change to improve them
Douglas Edwards 
🇭🇺@AccordionBruce @quincy I'm pleasantly surprised that a #submarine emoji is at least "pending prioritization". There seems to be a strong bias against anything associated with war or violence (although there are a few exceptions, like the crossed swords, and the bomb with its fuse lit), and most submarines are warships.
@AccordionBruce @quincy That'd be a hell of a way of finessing the warship issue! 😹
I'm surprised no one has submitted a #kaleidoscope emoji!
Fritz Adalis@AccordionBruce @quincy @catsalad
They can do five polar bears but reject a winged dragon. SMH my head.
They can do five polar bears but reject a winged dragon. SMH my head.
@FritzAdalis @quincy @catsalad
I think they did the polar bear #emoji after they got five proposals 🐻❄️
It’s gonna be hard to do another dragon with wings when they’ve already got two without them 🐉 🐲
The ethnic roots of #emoji lean hard to Japan, the US and Europe so it’s not a global mix
Any time things get too culturally specific there’s complications
The whole system is a kludge. Remarkable it’s been so popularly adopted
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funbaker; Je suis Antifa@quincy impliziert die Existenz von Trilobit die Existenz von Unilo- und Dilobit?
BigLinter@biglinter @quincy Emotet, war das nicht ein ägyptischer Hohepriester oder so?