“the reaction to [fascism] and the political project to fight it should also have a sense of imagination to it.

It can't just be a promise of return to normalcy. It can't just be we're going to survive. It has to also offer something for people to not just survive but thrive.

And it also has to strengthen itself against future fascistic threats.”

The Lawfare Podcast: Rational Security: The “Inadequate Chicken Moved to Inferior Location” Special End-of-Year Edition, Dec 30, 2025
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