xChaos 🌍 🇪🇺 🇨🇿🐧🚴Dec 29
Chao-c'
#noAI multiple selection checklist. Why exactly, if at all, are you alarmed about recent AI developments?
Energy consumption - generally
15.7%
Energy consumption - climate impact
15%
Exponential growth - generally
5.8%
Risk of runaway AGI (singularity)
2.9%
The LLMs are dangerous - generally
3.6%
The LLMs are dangerous for mental health
15.7%
The LLMs are dangerous for fabric of society
15.3%
Generative AI art is dangerous - generally
3.3%
Generative AI art is stealing from artists
19.3%
AI is threat to my job position - generally
3.3%
Poll ended at .
Dec 27 at 10:11amWeb
Show threadTom HerlíkDec 27

@xChaos The most important thing for me is missing — LLMs are being implemented in places where they have no business being, which leads to errors and general decrease in quality which just makes everything worse.

I absolutely hate being surrounded by slop code, slop text, slop media, slop everything.

Show threadFlorian SchmidtDec 27
@tomherlik
Yeah, this exceeds mere "danger for mental health". The use of AI/LLMs instead of science and thorough understanding is bound to decrease safety and security in engineering, policy etc. everywhere. Just like human bullshitting did before, but at a much higher scale and even harder to detect now.
@xChaos
Show threadChao-c'Dec 27

@schmidt_fu sorry for not providing more poll options, but I somehow decided, that "10 options must be enough for everybody" (on our instance) - just like Bill Gates famously said about 640 kB of RAM in MS-DOS :-)

However, feel free to reply with more polls with more checkboxes. Reply guys are welcome here!

@tomherlik

Show threadFlorian SchmidtDec 27
@xChaos
No offense meant, I replied to the reply 😅
Your poll is very luxurious and I enjoyed taking part, most polls shared have only 4 (and most of the time, not enough) options to capture only part of the question!
@tomherlik
Show threadTom HerlíkDec 27
@xChaos @schmidt_fu Sorry, this wasn’t meant to be a dig at you at all — was just thinking out loud while trying to choose one of the boxes. 😅
Show threadChao-c'Dec 27
@tomherlik but they are checkboxes, not radio - you could choose many! :-) @schmidt_fu
Show threadMac_CZ 🇦🇶Dec 27
@xChaos Amount of slop.
Show threadChao-c'Dec 27
@Mac_CZ you mean: it is not "dangerous", just "annoying"? So maybe next poll...
Show threadMac_CZ 🇦🇶Dec 27
@xChaos Yeah, exactly.
Show threadplactagonicDec 27

@xChaos I am not that much alarmed by the AI "tools" itself but by the people in charge.

It just feels like massive grift that big tech companies chase just for the shiny new thing that they need for the "growth". In the end it just degrades everything, can do some things badly and has just so narrow usage.

I don't think that the technology is heading in the right way - huge amount of recourses goes towards imaginary AGI which is for now just bulshit generating mashines without any intelligence. If they just focused on small models for one thing at a time it would be much better use of the money.

Show threadSvanteDec 27

@xChaos None of the above. My reason is that LLMs are being abused on a massive scale to dilute responsibility, to dilute truth, and to dilute beauty.

It's not the LLMs themselves, but their massive abuse, the incredible grift and scams being built on them.

Show threadFoxVKDec 27

@Ardubal @xChaos
well, it offers plenty of posibilities and people are creative🤷‍♂️ 😄

What is really annoying is huge group of "AI bad" screamers. I have absolutely nothing against constructive critigue. But the only purpose of those screams is to get attentions and shoulder pats from other screamers.

Show threadChao-c'Dec 27

@FoxVK You have to probably count me among those "screamers". But I think it is time to categorize different types of screams.

Simple checking yes or no is simplification... I added the options I believe, to some extent, to the poll and now I watch how important are those points of views to others.

After all, screaming "no AI" really won't save us. We need to replace this vision by some positive utopia. Which may even need us to reduce our Internet and social network addiction, who knows...

@Ardubal

Show threadSvanteDec 27

@FoxVK @xChaos

When machine learning (»bots«) surpassed top Go professionals a few years ago, we got new and fresh input for analysis, but also cheating became a problem.

There was some commotion around that, but nobody criticizing the abuse of bots for cheating was accused of being anti-technology.

Of course, nobody promised hundreds of billions of profit, and cheating wasn't the main activity around bots.

But with LLMs this is the case. Now, who benefits from calling critics »screamers«?

Show threadFoxVKDec 27

@Ardubal
What is the problem with promised profit?
What do you mean by cheating?

@xChaos
No, Can't say I never raised eyebrows but there is a logic in your post.

Show threadSvanteDec 27

@FoxVK @xChaos

The problem with promised profit is when it's a scam, and more so when hundreds of billions of dollars end up tied into that scam, and everyone is just waiting how bad the collapse will be.

Cheating is when you pretend to achieve something that you don't. In Go, it's when you pretend to play the game, when you're just parroting a bot. In LLMs, it's when you pretend to create answers, when all you do is generate something that only looks like answers.