Dźwiedziu

#Proxmox or #OpenStack? For #homelab and training myself?

Theoretically I have enough thinking sand to host both, yet if I could focus at one it would be beneficial. I'm tempted by OS Ironic, despite it being ironic I had witnessed a failed attempt to implement it.

A poll for “engagement”, but comments with reasoning are welcome (boosts also ;p).

Edit: I'm choosing one of those for possible future work. So the “other” option needs a rather good explanation, as AFAIS offers are for OS & PM.

OpenStack
6.8%
Proxmox
67.8%
Other (now you really have to comment)
10.2%
Bare-metal with configuration management
15.3%
Poll ended at .
Dec 19 at 10:50amWeb
Show threadsebulonDec 19
@dzwiedziu
I'm running Proxmox but would like to change to OpenStack if I could just for the interoperability with other projects that handles life-cycle management e.g.
Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19
@sebulon Do you have a link where I can read up on those? Or just look somewhere around CD/CI integration?
Show threadMichiel PiscaerDec 19
@dzwiedziu @sebulon My self I'm in the process to install openstack in my homelab. I write a a blog about it on https://sapiolab.nl the whole CI/CD workflows will be published on codeberg repository: https://codeberg.org/mpiscaer/myOpenstackCluster
Michiel Piscaer

A system administrator that operates a Openstack cluster and loves sailing.

Michiel Piscaer
Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19

@mpiscaer
Well don't mind me having a look then ;)

Could you just tell me what is the distinction of “top”/“under” for vSwitches (if I understand correctly)?
Something akin to “top/bottom of the rack” switch?

@sebulon

Show threadMichiel PiscaerDec 19
@dzwiedziu @sebulon i use Mikrotik switches. You find the config of the switches in de repo. I use opentofu to providing the config.
Show threadPaco HopeDec 19
@dzwiedziu You haven’t mentioned #xcpng with #xenorchestra . It’s pretty good. It’s what I use.
Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19
@paco
Unfortunately I'm keeping in line with what kind of job ads I'm seeing, as this is a part of my motivation.
Show threadPaco HopeDec 19
@dzwiedziu Makes sense! I don’t know any major firms running significant XCP. I know they exist because the company is doing well. But it makes sense to learn what’s useful.
Show threadfellmoon 🏴Dec 19
@dzwiedziu #bhyve - You'll curse a lot but you'll also learn A LOT.
Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19
@fellmoon I would, yet I need to have a good reason to go outside of the OS/Proxmox “divide”, as this is also learning for a potential new job.
Show threadfellmoon 🏴Dec 19
@dzwiedziu fair enough & hard to argue with that. I do different stuff at my homelab then during my dayjob for sanity reasons (& I don't want big tech dependencies in my personal life.)
Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19
@fellmoon Thanks for understanding and I'd would like to have it your way Yet I'm freshly unfunemployed.
Show threadNeal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) Dec 19

@dzwiedziu I consider #OpenStack to be the harder of the two, and thus naturally more valuable to self-train on if that is a goal. There are lots of OpenStack deployments out in the wild and people who want to build new private clouds now, so OpenStack skills are quite a bit more valuable than other alternatives. OpenStack on #AlmaLinux FTW.

If the goal of your homelab isn't about training, I'd go straight simple with #Fedora Server or AlmaLinux with #Cockpit and #Ansible and call it a day.

Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19
@neal I think you're going to push the scale to OS with what you've written.
That is something I'd like to be around for.
Show threadNeal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) Dec 20
@dzwiedziu I used to work in an environment with a full-scale private OpenStack deployment. It was definitely challenging and I think absolutely worth it if you learn the fundamentals and good practices in from the get-go.
Show threadari Dec 19

@dzwiedziu openstack is both more complicated, and - from what i've seen - less widely deployed than proxmox.

Other than these two, consider learning kubernetes, possibly even by deploying something like k3s

Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19
@ar What would be a good Kubernetes scenario for a home lab? when I've took courses on it it seemed aimed at clustered, (auto)scaling deployments.
Show threadari Dec 19
@dzwiedziu somewhat unified service deployment configuration as code. clustering and scaling are optional, but not necessary. and - arguably - with less overhead than virtualization.
Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19
@ar I'll keep that in mind, thanks!
Show threadJohannes KastlDec 19
@dzwiedziu I currently plan to test out #IncusOS in addition to Proxmox (as my machines are too low-range for OpenStack...)
Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19

@johanneskastl InclusOS was on my radar a while ago, yet see edit of my OT.

I looked at the OpenStack requirements and I might have underestimated my hardware or would have to check with a spreadsheet…

Show threadOnline ✅Dec 19
@dzwiedziu IncusOS
Show threadDźwiedziuDec 19
@online Could you tell me what are the benefits over other platforms?
Show threadCraig AskingsDec 20
@dzwiedziu Promox and some Talos VMs for Kubernetes practice.
Show threadGillesMocellinDec 20
@dzwiedziu
#Kubernetes with #Kubvirt when virtualisation is really needed