bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦Was forced to install the Miele app because it is the only way to tell the washing machine to clean itself. It asks you for permission to have third parties process and analyze your data no less than **8 times**. Ridiculous. I bet it will keep on asking until you give up. Also it is probably selling my data anyhow. Bah.
And yes, I personally know what to do to stop this. But it is not about me, it is about population level exploitation of data. Bah again.
Also this is some ESP8266 level performance! It's MAC address is registered to Miele, which is a nice touch.
The machine is "OFF" and it is STILL sending data to Microsoft Azure. You could not invent this world.
And to make matters worse I can’t even turn on the kind of cleaning I need. “Server error”
in a DELICIOUS twist, despite what the Miele instructions said, the app is not able to initiate the 'TwinDos' cleaning. HOWEVER! The app did contain a link to an actual PDF manual which tells me to press an invisible button, keep it pressed, and then close the machine door, to get to a "programming menu". And option P68 there set to '1' enables the cleaning program. Next up, how to disconnect the machine from the internet again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV7hWqRr_FQ
Hoe reinig ik TwinDos van mijn Miele wasmachine met TwinDos Care? | Miele
Now, I've not yet been able to fully disable the WiFi module yet. But it now thinks it is 127.0.0.1, and not getting very far anymore:
13:25:39.098568 ARP, Request who-has 127.0.0.1 tell 127.0.0.1, length 46
And done, there is a combination of buttons you can press to reset the WiFi module. I have to admit, the programmers behind the Miele machine were real professionals. The machine formally abandoned its DHCP lease, and it even left the mDNS multicast group explicitly before shutting down. </rant>
Sybren A. Stüvel@bert_hubert Woah that was quite a trip.
Maki 🔻 🌹@bert_hubert Should be off by default. I'll handwash before going for a machine which has this "feature".
@RandamuMaki it is off by default
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I bet the programmers aren't fans of hiding everything behind an app either and they're the ones who came up with the button-combo to get around it
I bet the programmers aren't fans of hiding everything behind an app either and they're the ones who came up with the button-combo to get around it
JTI@bert_hubert Glorious thread. Does it still perform behind a local network-only firewall or does the app strictly need a server connection?
Did you get to see the proper 3rd party notices for this lovely embedded (possibly Linux) box? Last time I looked at #Miele in that regard, I wasn't amazed. #BSH did better. And BSH has the #ThinkLight of dishwashers...
Also: complaints filed already?
Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷@bert_hubert Oh, also, @Medusalix is on a somewhat related quest - https://medusalix.github.io/posts/miele-interface/
I wish this was all open and documented.
It's my appliance, after all. Or ... is it? :-/
