MadaMadaDec 7
@[email protected] I feel like Tyr doesn't get much praise. It works wonderfully with #DeltaChat on mobile.
GitHub - JB-SelfCompany/Tyr: True P2P Email on top of Yggdrasil Network for Android

True P2P Email on top of Yggdrasil Network for Android - JB-SelfCompany/Tyr

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@madamada the internal dependency #yggmail has some bugs that cause message drop/lost or delivery delays, but I am hyped with #tyr and hope the developer keeps improving it

this concept could even be expanded, making such an app an "universal bridge" providing that fake email server to #DeltaChat while then internally it is connecting to Telegram, WhatsApp, XMPP, etc. basically allowing you to use that networks with Delta Chat

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@[email protected] Thought this was fixed in the latest release of Tyr?
Show threadMadaMadaDec 8
Hm seems like a Desktop version of Tyr might be in the works ? :>

On Desktop(Linux), if this goes through, could be an alternative for what I'm using right now, which is Yggmail + BetterBird

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@madamada it is not a "desktop version of Tyr" it is #yggmail, the original program created to send #email over #yggdrasil, #tyr is just an android apk packaging yggmail for #android
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@madamada another remaining problem is:

when you send an email from Delta Chat or other email apps to Tyr/yggmail server, it is delivered immediately to the local server, but you don't really know when the email will be actually delivered to the maybe offline peers

so it is really hard to use and relay on it if you never know if the other side received the message (until they open the chat and you see the read receipts in delta chat)

Show threadMadaMadaDec 8
@[email protected] With the current version of Tyr, when I send from DC on mobile to Yggmail/BetterBird on laptop, it is almost instant, the other way around there is a small delay, noticable yet not too long, like 3-5s..

In the older version of Tyr the lag was noticable.. so something must have been fixed.. but I'm excited too to see how far Tyr will go..
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@madamada some of the issues are still open in the upstream yggmail repo, I don't think the fork of Tyr have solved all the problems yet, and I already tested Tyr some days ago, the day it got published in IzzyOnDroid, and messages were getting lost sometimes

looking at the repo there has been some more changes, but I doubt all the problems are solved, I am excited to see it being under active development tho, this basically convert DC in a p2p app

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@adbenitez @madamada why don't we just host chatmail servers on yggdrazil? Just for the routing, no dns.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] That's basically what Tyr does but it runs locally instead of remotely.

Tho it's possible to run chatmail over Yggdrasil, just that you'd have to modify the scripts and disable the SMTP/IMAP TLS stuff..
Show threadMadaMadaDec 8
@[email protected] @[email protected] Or you could just run Yggmail remotely and firewall it to only allow your peers to connect to it..