Beyond the Noise #86: CDC 1946-2025 R.I.P.

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[1/4] #autism #ASD #AutismSpectrumDisorder #antivaxx #vaccines

To put it simple: Autism spectrum disorder is a systemic developmental disorder of the brain and the nervous system (among other systemic maldevelopments) during the FETAL state due to genetic defects. Which means the genetic defects MUST be either inherited OR triggered (e.g. by toxins* or infections) BEFORE that very fetal state. ->2/4

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Which means a child born with a regularly developed brain and nervous system CAN'T be turned into an autist with ANYTHING, because the brain and the nervous system already IS developed beyond and you can't turn anyone already born back into a tadpole to completely re-do the brain development defectively. -> 3/4

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Which also means, if your child shows autistic symptoms after a vaccination (the worsening triggered by the worked up immune system), than that child already WAS autistic at birth, you just didn't notice the signs. -> 4/4

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*toxins already proven to cause autism in the fetus are nicotine(!), caffeine(!), pesticides, PFAs, phthalates and a wide range of other endocrine disruptive chemicals dumped on us by the fossil fuel/chemical industry.
That's where you must point to, if you want to aim at the culprit!

@IviChoc Always funny, when people complain about others not knowing what autism is and then use a very pathologising neuronormative definition.
You're probably closer to an antivaxxer than someone who's actually informed about the topic.
@hauchvonstaub @IviChoc
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the second toot is garbage, they don’t know any of that, if they knew that, they’d know which genes too.
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“Developmental disorder,” doesn’t mean that (although it seems they picked those words to make us think it does), it only means Autistic children are diagnosed because they miss developmental average dates, like walking and talking.
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EDIT TO ADD: so of coarse the fifth one is too 😀
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EDIT TO ADD AGAIN: I think they started calling it that back when they could only possibly have my definition and couldn’t possibly show anything happening in zygotes or foetuses, right?
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So that so sciencey sounding definition is really something like religious tradition, never proven, but the entire conversation flows from it.
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Somebody, if I’m off the map here, please tell me 💜
#autism @autistics
@IviChoc sorry, but plenty of autistic folks will take very poorly to being called "defective" — including me.
@IviChoc It's NOT a disorder. It's a DIFFERENCE. It provides significant benefits, as well as some deficits. But almost the whole of technological progress through human history has been down to #ActuallyAutistic people. Without us, you'd still shivering naked in caves.

@simon_brooke
“Without us, you’d still [be] shivering naked in caves” - makes me so uncomfortable.
Your view on autism being a difference and not a disorder is yours, I will not pretend otherwise.

If you now one autistic person, you know one autistic person. And there are many, many autistic people who struggle a lot due to the symptoms that come with ASD.

Autistic people are not “better” or “worse” people. We are all people. We all should aspire to work together — neurodiverse and neurotypicals — just like we all did throughout humanity’s history.

Your framing reminds me a lot of “Aspie-Supremacy” and it makes me really sad. I feel like you are simply erasing our autistic siblings who need more care, whose symptoms are debilitating and who desperately need more support. By saying it is not a disorder it will just become harder for them to get access to help.

I would really appreciate for you to think about your statement again and understand different viewpoints without invalidating what another person said.
#actuallyautistic

@mayz @simon_brooke I think of my autism as a disorder.

*But* if I were only surrounded by other autistic people, then it would no longer be.

I need more help and support specifically because most people around me are different, and don’t understand me.

For me, it’s the context that makes it a disorder. And that’s why some days it instead feels like a superpower.

@lkanies @mayz well, agreed. But our culture doesn't need to be autism-hostile, and we should not tolerate it. We're a minority, but we're a very important minority without whom modern civilisation could not function. Just walk into any engineering consultancy, software lab or university STEM department and see.

Calling autism a 'disorder' is hate speech and should be treated as hate speech, in exactly the same way that the use of the N-word for Black people or the Y-word for Jewish people.

@simon_brooke @mayz I think that is wild, in multiple ways, not least of which is that Jewish and Black people have been forcibly oppressed for hundreds of years, and psychologists have only been pushing our oppression for at most 100.

But frankly, you don’t get to say I am using hate speech on myself.